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Re: blackhawks post# 456624

Thursday, 12/14/2023 2:21:46 PM

Thursday, December 14, 2023 2:21:46 PM

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Huh. Rightly or wrongly, seems all you did was stick to the A-bomb did it theory, while injecting totally evidence-free
guesses of what could have been in Japanese leaders minds. Look at Stalin's invasion from an American angle:

The Korean War 101: Causes, Course, and Conclusion of the Conflict


two South Korean Army officers observing activities in Communist
territory just across the thirty-eighth parallel. this picture was
made just at the outbreak of the Korean War. Source: the
uS Army Korean War Flickr page at http://tiny.cc/18tfmw.

North Korea attacked South Korea on June 25, 1950, igniting the Korean War. Cold War assumptions governed the immediate reaction of US leaders, who instantly concluded that Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin had ordered the invasion as the first step in his plan for world conquest. “Communism,” President Harry S. Truman argued later in his memoirs, “was acting in Korea just as [Adolf] Hitler, [Benito] Mussolini, and the Japanese had acted ten, fifteen, and twenty years earlier.” If North Korea’s aggression went “unchallenged, the world was certain to be plunged into another world war.” This 1930s history lesson prevented Truman from recognizing that the origins of this conflict dated to at least the start of World War II, when Korea was a colony of Japan. Liberation in August 1945 led to division and a predictable war because the US and the Soviet Union would not allow the Korean people to decide their own future.

Before 1941, the US had no vital interests in Korea and was largely indifferent to its fate.


Prime Minister Winston Churchill, President Roosevelt,
and Stalin at the yalta Conference, February 1945.
Source: http://tiny.cc/3d7dmw.

Before 1941, the US had no vital interests in Korea and was largely in-different to its fate. But after Pearl Harbor, President Franklin D. Roosevelt and his advisors acknowledged at once the importance of this strategic peninsula for peace in Asia, advocating a postwar trusteeship to achieve Korea’s independence. Late in 1943, Roosevelt joined British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and Chinese Generalissimo Chiang Kaishek in signing the Cairo Declaration, stating that the Allies “are determined that in due course Korea shall become free and independent.” At the Yalta Conference in early 1945, Stalin endorsed a four-power trusteeship in Korea. When Harry S. Truman became president after Roosevelt’s death in April 1945, however, Soviet expansion in Eastern Europe had begun to alarm US leaders. An atomic attack on Japan, Truman thought, would preempt Soviet entry into the Pacific War and allow unilateral American occupation of Korea. His gamble failed. On August 8, Stalin declared war on Japan and sent the Red Army into Korea. Only Stalin’s acceptance of Truman’s eleventh-hour proposal to divide the peninsula into So- viet and American zones of military occupation at the thirty-eighth parallel saved Korea from unification under Communist rule.

https://www.asianstudies.org/publications/eaa/archives/the-korean-war-101-causes-course-and-conclusion-of-the-conflict/

So seems getting Japan's surrender was far from the only consideration in Truman's mind when he decided to use the atomic
bomb. What was the real reason Truman okayed the use of the atomic bomb? Perhaps we should ask that question more.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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