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Giuliani can't distance himself from the Nov. 30, 2021 downtown Phoenix hotel meeting
"Finger-pointing begins inside Trump team over Jan. 6 indictment
[...]On the eve of a Fulton County, Ga., grand jury considering charges in its own Jan. 6 case this week, CNN reported .. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump/index.html .. that prosecutors there have obtained text messages linking the Trump team to a voting system breach in Coffee County, Ga. (Coffee County was one of multiple counties .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/10/28/coffee-county-georgia-voting-trump/?itid=lk_inline_manual_9 .. in which local officials allegedly gave outsiders access to voting machines and data without a court order or subpoena.)
P - In response, a lawyer for alleged Co-Conspirator 1, Rudy Giuliani, sought to distance the former mayor from those events — and more notably, from Powell.
P - “Rudy Giuliani had nothing to do with this,” Robert Costello told CNN. “You can’t attach Rudy Giuliani to Sidney Powell’s crackpot idea.”"
12:25 a.m. EDT -- ‘Oh, just focus on 2024, sir.’
By Yvonne Wingett Sanchez
Rudy Giuliani, lawyer for President Donald Trump, at a 2020 news conference. During a meeting at a
downtown Phoenix hotel, Giuliani allegedly made false statements about election fraud and
requested those present to “unlawfully appoint” presidential electors from Arizona,
according to the indictment. (Sarah Silbiger for The Washington Post)
The indictment cites a Nov. 30, 2020, meeting of Arizona state and federal lawmakers as “overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy.” During that meeting at a downtown Phoenix hotel, Rudy Giuliani allegedly made false statements about election fraud and requested those present to “unlawfully appoint” presidential electors from Arizona, according to the indictment. Trump called into the meeting and also made false statements, the indictment said.
That hours-long meeting was streamed online and was key in the efforts by Trump and his allies to try to build support for undoing the former president’s loss in the state, though they ultimately failed.
During that call, Trump told those gathered: “Everyone’s saying, ‘Oh, just focus on 2024, sir. Focus on 2024.’
“I said, ‘No. I have to focus on two weeks ago because this was the greatest scam ever perpetrated upon our country.”
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12:20 a.m. EDT Trump tweets used against him in Georgia indictment
By Josh Dawsey
Former president Donald Trump’s posts on Twitter were used at least a dozen times in the Georgia indictment as acts that “furthered the conspiracy.”
The indictment alleges that his tweets — at least a dozen between the November 2020 election and Jan. 6, 2021 — were part of a broader effort to force state officials, and even his vice president, to take corrupt actions to help him overturn the results of the election.
Some of the tweets are more incendiary than others. The indictment cites false statements Trump made about the election and his calls on officials to help him overturn the results.
“What a fool Governor @BrianKempGA of Georgia is. Could have been so easy, but now we have to do it the hard way. Demand this clown call z Special Session and open up signature verification, NOW. Otherwise, could be a bad day for two GREAT Senators on January 5th,” reads one tweet that the indictment calls an “overt act to further the conspiracy.”
The indictment also cites tweets in which Trump attacked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, former vice president Mike Pence and others when they were not going along with his claims.
“I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!” Trump wrote.
Some of the tweets were less aggressive.
The indictment pointed to a Dec. 3, 2020, tweet in which Trump wrote “Georgia hearings now on @OANN. Amazing!,” which also was described as “an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.”
Trump is no longer on Twitter. He was suspended from the platform after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, though his account was reactivated after Elon Musk’s purchase of the social media platform. Trump now posts on the social media platform Truth Social.
Those two live updates down a bit here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/14/trump-georgia-election-investigation/
"Finger-pointing begins inside Trump team over Jan. 6 indictment
[...]On the eve of a Fulton County, Ga., grand jury considering charges in its own Jan. 6 case this week, CNN reported .. https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/08/13/politics/coffee-county-georgia-voting-system-breach-trump/index.html .. that prosecutors there have obtained text messages linking the Trump team to a voting system breach in Coffee County, Ga. (Coffee County was one of multiple counties .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/10/28/coffee-county-georgia-voting-trump/?itid=lk_inline_manual_9 .. in which local officials allegedly gave outsiders access to voting machines and data without a court order or subpoena.)
P - In response, a lawyer for alleged Co-Conspirator 1, Rudy Giuliani, sought to distance the former mayor from those events — and more notably, from Powell.
P - “Rudy Giuliani had nothing to do with this,” Robert Costello told CNN. “You can’t attach Rudy Giuliani to Sidney Powell’s crackpot idea.”"
12:25 a.m. EDT -- ‘Oh, just focus on 2024, sir.’
By Yvonne Wingett Sanchez
Rudy Giuliani, lawyer for President Donald Trump, at a 2020 news conference. During a meeting at a
downtown Phoenix hotel, Giuliani allegedly made false statements about election fraud and
requested those present to “unlawfully appoint” presidential electors from Arizona,
according to the indictment. (Sarah Silbiger for The Washington Post)
The indictment cites a Nov. 30, 2020, meeting of Arizona state and federal lawmakers as “overt acts in furtherance of the conspiracy.” During that meeting at a downtown Phoenix hotel, Rudy Giuliani allegedly made false statements about election fraud and requested those present to “unlawfully appoint” presidential electors from Arizona, according to the indictment. Trump called into the meeting and also made false statements, the indictment said.
That hours-long meeting was streamed online and was key in the efforts by Trump and his allies to try to build support for undoing the former president’s loss in the state, though they ultimately failed.
During that call, Trump told those gathered: “Everyone’s saying, ‘Oh, just focus on 2024, sir. Focus on 2024.’
“I said, ‘No. I have to focus on two weeks ago because this was the greatest scam ever perpetrated upon our country.”
----
12:20 a.m. EDT Trump tweets used against him in Georgia indictment
By Josh Dawsey
Former president Donald Trump’s posts on Twitter were used at least a dozen times in the Georgia indictment as acts that “furthered the conspiracy.”
The indictment alleges that his tweets — at least a dozen between the November 2020 election and Jan. 6, 2021 — were part of a broader effort to force state officials, and even his vice president, to take corrupt actions to help him overturn the results of the election.
Some of the tweets are more incendiary than others. The indictment cites false statements Trump made about the election and his calls on officials to help him overturn the results.
“What a fool Governor @BrianKempGA of Georgia is. Could have been so easy, but now we have to do it the hard way. Demand this clown call z Special Session and open up signature verification, NOW. Otherwise, could be a bad day for two GREAT Senators on January 5th,” reads one tweet that the indictment calls an “overt act to further the conspiracy.”
The indictment also cites tweets in which Trump attacked Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, former vice president Mike Pence and others when they were not going along with his claims.
“I spoke to Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger yesterday about Fulton County and voter fraud in Georgia. He was unwilling, or unable, to answer questions such as the ‘ballots under table’ scam, ballot destruction, out of state ‘voters’, dead voters, and more. He has no clue!” Trump wrote.
Some of the tweets were less aggressive.
The indictment pointed to a Dec. 3, 2020, tweet in which Trump wrote “Georgia hearings now on @OANN. Amazing!,” which also was described as “an overt act in furtherance of the conspiracy.”
Trump is no longer on Twitter. He was suspended from the platform after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, though his account was reactivated after Elon Musk’s purchase of the social media platform. Trump now posts on the social media platform Truth Social.
Those two live updates down a bit here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/14/trump-georgia-election-investigation/
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