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Re: 12yearplan post# 435289

Wednesday, 01/18/2023 10:16:18 AM

Wednesday, January 18, 2023 10:16:18 AM

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But if you want generally speaking. Generally speaking I think it is pretty obvious looking at history that Conservatives are more in bed with the Corporatist than Liberal.
Trading Health and Education for Trickle down ur leg economics.
I'm happy to share my bias - never voted Conservative in my life.
Find it too dogmatic, selfish, mean spirited and the old guy with the beard in the clouds is a non-starter.


So it used to be, but things have change over the years, the history of the Democratic party is far different than the modern one, just the near equal distribution of corporate money now speaks volumes of the modern day.......Results or lack of and then the blame game can be convenient..The status quo is just what the corps want since they are now so completely in control......Pluto is now the master and Mickey is wondering why our leaders don't listen to Nick...

Never voted for a Republican president,,,,,but am at the point I would consider it now, but it would take a Teddy Roosevelt or someone with some common sense that has proven to put country over party, not pit countrymen against countrymen..... (Or should I say country 'person')

If the US is to keep from falling into the abyss, one way or the other, it will take someone who is willing to go against the straight party line and talking points.....like a Katie or Fetterman...They had to buck their own party and when you do that its hard to gain a national voice due to it, if you don't say what we want we won't back you,,,,,,They won, willing to be true to themselves...

The man upstairs,,, nah,,,But maybe something out there much bigger than ourselves? I don't think the speck has a clue yet, nor could we...
https://journals.lww.com/jonmd/Fulltext/2022/11000/Stairway_to_Heaven__A_First_Person_Account_of.6.aspx

Apologies for spring boarding off your post, mine was more of a response to the one you responded to, especially the opening paragraph of it....

Dems aren't going to rally against the corporate structure, not in a meaningful and needed way,,, Bernie knows the root of our problems, but wrong solutions...Back to conformity, tit for tat....... yada yada

People would be surprised at the amount of support a leader would gain stepping out from the crowd and standing firm, regardless of the red blotches of paint they used to distinguish themself ;)........ Nowhere is sight I'm afraid and dems just don't understand how they push so many away, actually represent so few and justify it.....

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