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catdaddyrt, I've always wondered how you people decide on which conspiracy theory to believe. Seriously. How do you decide which one you can accept as most true for you? That's what we all do. Learn as much as we can, and choose to believe (until better evidence appears) the explanation, for whatever, which seems, feels, appears to be the best evidence based one to believe. I've chosen the official explanation. You reject that. You looks like have chosen number 2. of those below. Or is yours yet another form of that one which isn't listed here? If so would be good to have more detail from you. Do you reject Seymour Hersch's theory for the reason given below?
Anyway, welcome to breakfast, lunch, snacks and supper. How do you personally decide on which theory to believe? Seriously.
Related:
Osama bin Laden's wives told they are free to leave Pakistan
December, 2011 -- https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69981423
Pakistan and the US: Quarrel or Divorce?
[...]In the past year, a CIA contractor has shot down people in broad daylight, the US embarrassed Pakistan by not warning Islamabad of the assault on Usamah Bin Laden, and former chairmand of thejoint chiefs of staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, more or less accused Pakistan of complicity with the Haqqani Network in an attack on a US embassy in Kabul. In short, Pakistani self-respect has been dragged through the mud by Washington.
P - You can only imagine how Americans would feel if Pakistani agents were wandering American cities and occasionally offing people; and if Pakistani convoys were plying the country with military supplies for Pakistani bases in Canada, and Pakistani drones were zeroing in on mountaineer insurgents in the hills of Kentucky. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69675139
The 6 Wildest Conspiracy Theories About Osama Bin Laden's Death
Military.com | By Blake Stilwell
In a daring, well-documented nighttime raid, 23 Navy SEALs .. https://www.military.com/special-operations/training-to-be-a-navy-seal.html .. landed in an al-Qaida compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. They were there to kill or capture the world’s most wanted man. The entire operation lasted only 40 minutes and ended with the death of Osama bin Laden.
Or did it? That’s what the deep state, reptile aliens or any number of conspiracy theory bogeymen want you to believe, sheeple. The truth is out there.
Pictured: The Truth. And yes, they're still out there. (U.S. Navy/Mass Communication
Specialist 2nd Class Martin L. Carey)
Imagine instead believing that the bin Laden raid wasn’t a result of years of research, intelligence work and training. Since there were no photos released to the public, some believe the government isn’t telling the whole truth about the “alleged” death of bin Laden in 2011.
The U.S. government’s reluctance to release the photos of his body and the immediate burial at sea didn’t help quash these theories, either.
You don’t have to go far on the internet to find alternate theories about bin Laden’s death. And if this author is mysteriously killed in the coming weeks, you can be sure one of these is true. Definitely.
1. Osama Bin Laden Died in December 2001
Some say the world’s most wanted terrorist was suffering from Marfan Syndrome .. https://www.marfan.org/about/marfan , a genetic mutation that affects the proteins keeping the body’s tissue together. According to former State Department official Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, bin Laden looked like a textbook case of the disorder. His tall frame, long limbs and long face all displayed classic symptoms.
The disease affects one in about 5,000 people and can cause sudden death, and there is no definitive DNA test .. https://www.salon.com/2001/11/09/marfan/ .. for it. Instead, doctors begin with judging the outward appearance of a suspected “Marfanoid” person -- someone thin and often lanky, sometimes with spidery fingers and curved spines. Pieczenik claimed CIA doctors had treated OBL for Marfan, and the al-Qaida leader died just months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Other claims say he died at the same time, but of renal failure, not Marfan Syndrome.
A man with Marfan Syndrome. (Merck)
2. He Didn't Die. He Got a Vacation.
Like all great conspiracy theories, this one is fact mixed with a healthy dose of fiction -- but the facts make it just believable enough to catch on. During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the CIA flew Soviet-built weapons from Saudi Arabia to the Afghan Mujahideen during Operation Cyclone.
I don't see how this could possibly go wrong. (Photo by Erwin Lux, used by permission)
The conspiracy theory alleges that bin Laden became a CIA asset at this time. The CIA, partnering with Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Agency, worked to build the mythos surrounding Osama bin Laden, so that fanatical terrorists would come to Afghanistan. Funded through the heroin trade, tacitly permitted by Pakistan, the CIA created a means to fight Islamic fundamentalism in one place.
The raid that killed bin Laden the terrorist was allegedly a means to let bin Laden the CIA asset retire. This is a theory backed by the Iranian regime.
3. Pakistan Captured Bin Laden in 2006
This one comes from legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh .. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden . Hersh alleges that Pakistan’s ISI captured the terrorist in 2006 and used him as leverage to operate in Afghanistan. The ISI then sold bin Laden to the U.S., but forced them to stage the raid that killed him.
According to Hersh, when Navy SEALs arrived in Abbottabad, they were met by an ISI officer who casually walked them to bin Laden’s bedroom. The SEALs then riddled him with bullets, tore his body apart and dispersed them throughout the Hindu Kush, just because.
Hersh’s sources for this story are both dubious and anonymous.
4. Bin Laden Didn’t Even Live In Abbottabad
In the London Telegraph .. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8489304/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-conspiracy-theories-proliferate-in-wake-of-raid.html , Abbottabad resident Bashir Qureshi dismissed the idea that bin Laden and his family lived in the area. Though the raid blew out the windows on his house, he still dismissed the idea, saying: “Nobody believes it. We've never seen any Arabs around here; he was not here."
Pictured: No Arabs. Definitely no Arabs here.
The Pakistani press didn’t help. Newspapers in the country allege the raid was set up so U.S. forces would have an excuse to enter Pakistan. Former ISI officials seconded that idea in Western media, noting that someone was killed and removed by the U.S. forces during the raid, but it wasn’t bin Laden. The real bin Laden was already dead, they said, and the U.S. knew it. … They just didn’t know where he died.
5. The U.S. Captured Bin Laden Well Before 2011
Another theory promoted by the Iranian regime says that the U.S. captured and held bin Laden for years before finally killing him. Fearful that forcing the world’s most wanted terrorist to face trial in the U.S. could result in a hung jury or worse, an acquittal, the United States executed him and stage his death as an elaborate raid.
This theory alleges that killing bin Laden was a stunt by the Obama Administration in order to secure an election victory -- even though the presidential election was more than a year away at the time.
6. Bin Laden Was Literally Kept on Ice
In keeping with the “bin Laden was already dead, the United States just confirmed it” line of thinking, this theory states that the United States had either captured bin Laden after the raid on Tora Bora or that he died of renal failure well before 2011. The U.S. then allegedly froze his body in liquid nitrogen to wait for an expedient time to announce the “victory.”
Science!
The expedient times listed by proponents of this conspiracy include not clashing with the wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton and knocking an episode of “Celebrity Apprentice” off the air so President Barack Obama could thumb his nose at Donald Trump.
-- Blake Stilwell can be reached at blake.stilwell@military.com. He can also be found on Twitter @blakestilwell or on Facebook.
-- Blake Stilwell can be reached at blake.stilwell@military.com. He can also be found on Twitter @blakestilwell or on Facebook.
Want to Learn More About Military Life?
Whether you're thinking of joining the military, looking for post-military careers or keeping up with military life and benefits, Military.com
has you covered. Subscribe to Military.com to have military news, updates and resources delivered directly to your inbox.
Related Topics: Military History Osama bin Laden
https://www.military.com/history/6-wildest-conspiracy-theories-about-osama-bin-ladens-death.html
Anyway, welcome to breakfast, lunch, snacks and supper. How do you personally decide on which theory to believe? Seriously.
Related:
Osama bin Laden's wives told they are free to leave Pakistan
December, 2011 -- https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69981423
Pakistan and the US: Quarrel or Divorce?
[...]In the past year, a CIA contractor has shot down people in broad daylight, the US embarrassed Pakistan by not warning Islamabad of the assault on Usamah Bin Laden, and former chairmand of thejoint chiefs of staff, Adm. Mike Mullen, more or less accused Pakistan of complicity with the Haqqani Network in an attack on a US embassy in Kabul. In short, Pakistani self-respect has been dragged through the mud by Washington.
P - You can only imagine how Americans would feel if Pakistani agents were wandering American cities and occasionally offing people; and if Pakistani convoys were plying the country with military supplies for Pakistani bases in Canada, and Pakistani drones were zeroing in on mountaineer insurgents in the hills of Kentucky. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=69675139
The 6 Wildest Conspiracy Theories About Osama Bin Laden's Death
Military.com | By Blake Stilwell
In a daring, well-documented nighttime raid, 23 Navy SEALs .. https://www.military.com/special-operations/training-to-be-a-navy-seal.html .. landed in an al-Qaida compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. They were there to kill or capture the world’s most wanted man. The entire operation lasted only 40 minutes and ended with the death of Osama bin Laden.
Or did it? That’s what the deep state, reptile aliens or any number of conspiracy theory bogeymen want you to believe, sheeple. The truth is out there.
Pictured: The Truth. And yes, they're still out there. (U.S. Navy/Mass Communication
Specialist 2nd Class Martin L. Carey)
Imagine instead believing that the bin Laden raid wasn’t a result of years of research, intelligence work and training. Since there were no photos released to the public, some believe the government isn’t telling the whole truth about the “alleged” death of bin Laden in 2011.
The U.S. government’s reluctance to release the photos of his body and the immediate burial at sea didn’t help quash these theories, either.
You don’t have to go far on the internet to find alternate theories about bin Laden’s death. And if this author is mysteriously killed in the coming weeks, you can be sure one of these is true. Definitely.
1. Osama Bin Laden Died in December 2001
Some say the world’s most wanted terrorist was suffering from Marfan Syndrome .. https://www.marfan.org/about/marfan , a genetic mutation that affects the proteins keeping the body’s tissue together. According to former State Department official Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, bin Laden looked like a textbook case of the disorder. His tall frame, long limbs and long face all displayed classic symptoms.
The disease affects one in about 5,000 people and can cause sudden death, and there is no definitive DNA test .. https://www.salon.com/2001/11/09/marfan/ .. for it. Instead, doctors begin with judging the outward appearance of a suspected “Marfanoid” person -- someone thin and often lanky, sometimes with spidery fingers and curved spines. Pieczenik claimed CIA doctors had treated OBL for Marfan, and the al-Qaida leader died just months after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
Other claims say he died at the same time, but of renal failure, not Marfan Syndrome.
A man with Marfan Syndrome. (Merck)
2. He Didn't Die. He Got a Vacation.
Like all great conspiracy theories, this one is fact mixed with a healthy dose of fiction -- but the facts make it just believable enough to catch on. During the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan, the CIA flew Soviet-built weapons from Saudi Arabia to the Afghan Mujahideen during Operation Cyclone.
I don't see how this could possibly go wrong. (Photo by Erwin Lux, used by permission)
The conspiracy theory alleges that bin Laden became a CIA asset at this time. The CIA, partnering with Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Agency, worked to build the mythos surrounding Osama bin Laden, so that fanatical terrorists would come to Afghanistan. Funded through the heroin trade, tacitly permitted by Pakistan, the CIA created a means to fight Islamic fundamentalism in one place.
The raid that killed bin Laden the terrorist was allegedly a means to let bin Laden the CIA asset retire. This is a theory backed by the Iranian regime.
3. Pakistan Captured Bin Laden in 2006
This one comes from legendary investigative journalist Seymour Hersh .. http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden . Hersh alleges that Pakistan’s ISI captured the terrorist in 2006 and used him as leverage to operate in Afghanistan. The ISI then sold bin Laden to the U.S., but forced them to stage the raid that killed him.
According to Hersh, when Navy SEALs arrived in Abbottabad, they were met by an ISI officer who casually walked them to bin Laden’s bedroom. The SEALs then riddled him with bullets, tore his body apart and dispersed them throughout the Hindu Kush, just because.
Hersh’s sources for this story are both dubious and anonymous.
4. Bin Laden Didn’t Even Live In Abbottabad
In the London Telegraph .. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/8489304/Osama-bin-Laden-killed-conspiracy-theories-proliferate-in-wake-of-raid.html , Abbottabad resident Bashir Qureshi dismissed the idea that bin Laden and his family lived in the area. Though the raid blew out the windows on his house, he still dismissed the idea, saying: “Nobody believes it. We've never seen any Arabs around here; he was not here."
Pictured: No Arabs. Definitely no Arabs here.
The Pakistani press didn’t help. Newspapers in the country allege the raid was set up so U.S. forces would have an excuse to enter Pakistan. Former ISI officials seconded that idea in Western media, noting that someone was killed and removed by the U.S. forces during the raid, but it wasn’t bin Laden. The real bin Laden was already dead, they said, and the U.S. knew it. … They just didn’t know where he died.
5. The U.S. Captured Bin Laden Well Before 2011
Another theory promoted by the Iranian regime says that the U.S. captured and held bin Laden for years before finally killing him. Fearful that forcing the world’s most wanted terrorist to face trial in the U.S. could result in a hung jury or worse, an acquittal, the United States executed him and stage his death as an elaborate raid.
This theory alleges that killing bin Laden was a stunt by the Obama Administration in order to secure an election victory -- even though the presidential election was more than a year away at the time.
6. Bin Laden Was Literally Kept on Ice
In keeping with the “bin Laden was already dead, the United States just confirmed it” line of thinking, this theory states that the United States had either captured bin Laden after the raid on Tora Bora or that he died of renal failure well before 2011. The U.S. then allegedly froze his body in liquid nitrogen to wait for an expedient time to announce the “victory.”
Science!
The expedient times listed by proponents of this conspiracy include not clashing with the wedding of Prince William and Kate Middleton and knocking an episode of “Celebrity Apprentice” off the air so President Barack Obama could thumb his nose at Donald Trump.
-- Blake Stilwell can be reached at blake.stilwell@military.com. He can also be found on Twitter @blakestilwell or on Facebook.
-- Blake Stilwell can be reached at blake.stilwell@military.com. He can also be found on Twitter @blakestilwell or on Facebook.
Want to Learn More About Military Life?
Whether you're thinking of joining the military, looking for post-military careers or keeping up with military life and benefits, Military.com
has you covered. Subscribe to Military.com to have military news, updates and resources delivered directly to your inbox.
Related Topics: Military History Osama bin Laden
https://www.military.com/history/6-wildest-conspiracy-theories-about-osama-bin-ladens-death.html
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