Wednesday, December 07, 2022 2:40:50 PM
Good point about preemptive arrest. Why not in the USA before Jan. 6. Actually it does happen in many other cases, the Whitmer kidnapping plot one recent one
How new Boogaloo Bois violence shattered Trump's pro-police facade
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Hunter was not with antifa or BLM. He wasn’t seeking “justice for Floyd” — or anyone, for that matter. Rather, as a member of the boogaloo movement, Hunter was part of a loosely organized, often far-right, pro-gun, anti-government, violent extremist ideology. Sometimes described as a militia .. whitmer-conspiracy-allegations-tied-boogaloo-movement-n1242670" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc" target="_blank">https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/whitmer-conspiracy-allegations-tied-boogaloo-movement-n1242670 , and often possessing disparate beliefs and motives, boogaloo members tend to have at least one overarching belief: They claim they are preparing for, and are even seeking to bring about, another civil war, or “boogaloo.” Two hours after the police precinct was set on fire, Hunter texted with another Boogaloo member in California, a man named Steven Carrillo. Carrillo was an Air Force sergeant from California who was later charged with fatally shooting a federal protective service officer in Oakland .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/17/boogaloo-steven-carrillo/?itid=lk_inline_manual_13 .. on May 29 and a Santa Cruz County sheriff’s deputy a week later.
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Three men are convicted of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
October 26, 202211:54 AM ET
The Associated Press
Paul Bellar (from left), Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico, who were accused of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, were convicted of all charges Wednesday. Alvin S. Glenn Detention Center and Jackson County Sheriff's Office via AP, File
Three men accused of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan's governor .. https://www.npr.org/2020/12/17/947652491/6-suspects-indicted-for-conspiracy-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer .. were convicted of all charges Wednesday, a triumph for state prosecutors after months of mixed results in the main case in federal court.
Joe Morrison, his father-in-law Pete Musico, and Paul Bellar were found guilty of providing "material support" for a terrorist act as members of a paramilitary group, the Wolverine Watchmen.
They held gun drills in rural Jackson County with a leader of the scheme, Adam Fox, who was disgusted with Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and other officials in 2020 and said he wanted to kidnap her.
National
2 men are found guilty of conspiring to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/23/1119015754/2-guilty-gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot
Jurors read and heard violent, anti-government screeds as well as support for the "boogaloo," a civil war that might be triggered by a shocking abduction. Prosecutors said COVID-19 restrictions ordered by Whitmer turned out to be fruit to recruit more people to the Watchmen.
"The facts drip out slowly," state Assistant Attorney General Bill Rollstin told jurors in Jackson, Michigan, "and you begin to see — wow — there were things that happened that people knew about. ... When you see how close Adam Fox got to the governor, you can see how a very bad event was thwarted."
Morrison, 28, Musico, 44, and Bellar, 24, were also convicted of a gun crime and membership in a gang. Prosecutors said the Wolverine Watchmen was a criminal enterprise.
Pete Musico (left), appearing in court on Oct. 4, and two other men accused of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan's governor were convicted of all charges on Wednesday. J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP, Pool, File
Morrison, who recently tested positive for COVID-19, and Musico watched the verdict by video away from the courtroom. Judge Thomas Wilson ordered all three to jail while they await sentencing scheduled for Dec. 15.
Defense attorneys argued that the three men had broken ties with Fox by late summer 2020 when the Whitmer plot came into focus. Unlike Fox and others, they didn't travel to northern Michigan to scout the governor's vacation home or participate in a key weekend training session inside a "shoot house."
"In this country, you are allowed to talk the talk but you only get convicted if you walk the walk," Musico's attorney, Kareem Johnson, said in his closing remarks.
National
2 men are acquitted in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer; hung jury on 2 more
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/08/1091748401/whitmer-kidnapping-verdicts-michigan-governor
Defense lawyers couldn't argue entrapment. But they attacked the tactics of Dan Chappel, an Army veteran and undercover informant. He took instructions from FBI agents, secretly recorded conversations and produced a deep cache of messages exchanged with the men.
Whitmer, a Democrat running for reelection on Nov. 8, was never physically harmed. Undercover agents and informants were inside Fox's group for months. The scheme was broken up with 14 arrests in October 2020.
Fox and Barry Croft Jr. were convicted .. https://www.npr.org/2022/08/23/1119015754/2-guilty-gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot .. of a kidnapping conspiracy in federal court in August. Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta were acquitted .. https://www.npr.org/2022/04/08/1091748401/whitmer-kidnapping-verdicts-michigan-governor .. last spring. Ty Garbin and Kaleb Franks pleaded guilty.
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/26/1131607112/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-kidnapping-convictions
How new Boogaloo Bois violence shattered Trump's pro-police facade
[...]
Hunter was not with antifa or BLM. He wasn’t seeking “justice for Floyd” — or anyone, for that matter. Rather, as a member of the boogaloo movement, Hunter was part of a loosely organized, often far-right, pro-gun, anti-government, violent extremist ideology. Sometimes described as a militia .. whitmer-conspiracy-allegations-tied-boogaloo-movement-n1242670" rel="nofollow noopener noreferrer ugc" target="_blank">https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/whitmer-conspiracy-allegations-tied-boogaloo-movement-n1242670 , and often possessing disparate beliefs and motives, boogaloo members tend to have at least one overarching belief: They claim they are preparing for, and are even seeking to bring about, another civil war, or “boogaloo.” Two hours after the police precinct was set on fire, Hunter texted with another Boogaloo member in California, a man named Steven Carrillo. Carrillo was an Air Force sergeant from California who was later charged with fatally shooting a federal protective service officer in Oakland .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/06/17/boogaloo-steven-carrillo/?itid=lk_inline_manual_13 .. on May 29 and a Santa Cruz County sheriff’s deputy a week later.
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Three men are convicted of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
October 26, 202211:54 AM ET
The Associated Press
Paul Bellar (from left), Joseph Morrison and Pete Musico, who were accused of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, were convicted of all charges Wednesday. Alvin S. Glenn Detention Center and Jackson County Sheriff's Office via AP, File
Three men accused of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan's governor .. https://www.npr.org/2020/12/17/947652491/6-suspects-indicted-for-conspiracy-to-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer .. were convicted of all charges Wednesday, a triumph for state prosecutors after months of mixed results in the main case in federal court.
Joe Morrison, his father-in-law Pete Musico, and Paul Bellar were found guilty of providing "material support" for a terrorist act as members of a paramilitary group, the Wolverine Watchmen.
They held gun drills in rural Jackson County with a leader of the scheme, Adam Fox, who was disgusted with Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and other officials in 2020 and said he wanted to kidnap her.
National
2 men are found guilty of conspiring to kidnap Gov. Gretchen Whitmer
https://www.npr.org/2022/08/23/1119015754/2-guilty-gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot
Jurors read and heard violent, anti-government screeds as well as support for the "boogaloo," a civil war that might be triggered by a shocking abduction. Prosecutors said COVID-19 restrictions ordered by Whitmer turned out to be fruit to recruit more people to the Watchmen.
"The facts drip out slowly," state Assistant Attorney General Bill Rollstin told jurors in Jackson, Michigan, "and you begin to see — wow — there were things that happened that people knew about. ... When you see how close Adam Fox got to the governor, you can see how a very bad event was thwarted."
Morrison, 28, Musico, 44, and Bellar, 24, were also convicted of a gun crime and membership in a gang. Prosecutors said the Wolverine Watchmen was a criminal enterprise.
Pete Musico (left), appearing in court on Oct. 4, and two other men accused of supporting a plot to kidnap Michigan's governor were convicted of all charges on Wednesday. J. Scott Park/Jackson Citizen Patriot via AP, Pool, File
Morrison, who recently tested positive for COVID-19, and Musico watched the verdict by video away from the courtroom. Judge Thomas Wilson ordered all three to jail while they await sentencing scheduled for Dec. 15.
Defense attorneys argued that the three men had broken ties with Fox by late summer 2020 when the Whitmer plot came into focus. Unlike Fox and others, they didn't travel to northern Michigan to scout the governor's vacation home or participate in a key weekend training session inside a "shoot house."
"In this country, you are allowed to talk the talk but you only get convicted if you walk the walk," Musico's attorney, Kareem Johnson, said in his closing remarks.
National
2 men are acquitted in a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Whitmer; hung jury on 2 more
https://www.npr.org/2022/04/08/1091748401/whitmer-kidnapping-verdicts-michigan-governor
Defense lawyers couldn't argue entrapment. But they attacked the tactics of Dan Chappel, an Army veteran and undercover informant. He took instructions from FBI agents, secretly recorded conversations and produced a deep cache of messages exchanged with the men.
Whitmer, a Democrat running for reelection on Nov. 8, was never physically harmed. Undercover agents and informants were inside Fox's group for months. The scheme was broken up with 14 arrests in October 2020.
Fox and Barry Croft Jr. were convicted .. https://www.npr.org/2022/08/23/1119015754/2-guilty-gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot .. of a kidnapping conspiracy in federal court in August. Daniel Harris and Brandon Caserta were acquitted .. https://www.npr.org/2022/04/08/1091748401/whitmer-kidnapping-verdicts-michigan-governor .. last spring. Ty Garbin and Kaleb Franks pleaded guilty.
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/26/1131607112/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-kidnapping-convictions
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