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12yearplan, "Sod knows why you defend Peterson's faulty lobster-so-human logic so adamantly. I don't." Oh! Ok, I must have missed where you acknowledged it.

"Really don't care much about those intricacies but enjoy reading those skilled in their exploration and findings."

Since when is selectively abusing science and authoritatively giving that misinformation to millions worldwide a small insignificant intricacy. If he had accepted and admitted publicly his error that would have been very positive. Maybe he has and both of us have missed it. But seeing him as we have so far i doubt he has admitted error.

Back to yours and correct me if i'm wrong here: It occurs to me those who you now say are "skilled in their exploration and findings." must be the same ones you ridiculed and dismissed

"Ha ha, another argument borderline straw man/false dichotomy limiting one's options for creative thinking like using metaphor.
Or even hasty generalization - if one keeps repeating someone is controversial it must be true!.
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Yes, there are many hit pieces coming from insecure locales like the NY Times and Wapo.. read them; always hinting at right wing parallels without the knock out punch - sad/poor journalism.
Until there is a smoking gun I'll stay with the substance behind, the motivation behind ideas put forward.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170501338

earlier. What others but the

" insecure locales like the NY Times and Wapo...sad/poor journalism."

could you now be describing as

"skilled in their exploration and findings"...

What others could you have changed your mind so quickly about. I don't recall any of what you had said earlier which even hinted that you had accepted Peterson had selectively abused science to either innocently (he being so bright, how could that possibly be, eh), or disingenuously support his own personal worldview.

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PS: Just now late i again caught this bit of yours
Good stuff and thanks. I'm slowly getting a better sense of the guy and the controversy.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170500553
which apart from all your other did suggest you were getting it. It got lost among all your other, what i felt was little but, obfuscation.
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Why did you think i gave them to you in the first place. I enjoyed them because the authors obviously knew what
they were talking about. And because i learned a hell of a lot from them about biology. And about Peterson.

On giving them to you i hoped you would feel the same about them.

One more to wrap that for now

Psychologist Jordan Peterson says lobsters help to explain why human hierarchies exist – do they?
by Leonor Gonçalves, The Conversation
January 25, 2018

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We can wish to hold on to the past and choose to emulate the societal structure of ancient animals. But the fact lobsters have survived for so long without changing is a reflection of how well they are adapted to their environment – and how little this has changed. Human ancestors have left the ocean, developed lungs, vocal cords and many things in between. We have explored continents, built flying machines and some of us even live outside the Earth. We crave change and challenge. We also try to make our societies more fair and balanced and aspire to make humanity better and more advanced.

What's more, the animal kingdom is full of examples of hierarchies, with the highest level of organisation observed in insects. These are as closely related to us as lobsters are – they also have serotonin and nervous systems. In the world of bees, the queen is much larger than the males and the only fertile female. She lays all the eggs in the colony after being fertilised by several males. After breeding season, the males are driven out of the colony and die. If we chose to organise society in this "natural" way, would we be okay with that?
https://phys.org/news/2018-01-psychologist-jordan-peterson-lobsters-human.html

I thank you for the fact i know more about Peterson now.