Saturday, October 29, 2022 9:36:12 PM
Playing to Western Discord, Putin Says Russia Is Battling ‘Strange’ Elites
"The War in Ukraine Is a Colonial War
For centuries, the country has lived in the shadow of empire. But its past also provides the key to its present.
By Timothy Snyder April 28, 2022"
The bastard really believes he will wear the West down. He has to be proven
wrong or it will open the floodgates to further invasions in years to come.
Ahead of U.S. elections, the Russian leader sounded like some right-wing Westerners, saying his fight is not with those in the West who hold “traditional values.”
President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia at an annual foreign policy conference he addressed on Thursday. Pavel Byrkin/Sputnik
By Anton Troianovski
Oct. 27, 2022
President Vladimir V. Putin declared on Thursday that Russia’s battle was with “Western elites,” not with the West itself, in a speech seemingly aimed more at winning over political conservatives abroad than his own citizens.
Mr. Putin, addressing an annual foreign policy conference outside Moscow, appeared intent on capitalizing on political divisions in the United States and its allies that have only heightened since they began showering Ukraine with military aid to fend off the Russian invasion.
Many of the Russian leader’s themes were familiar, but they took on particular resonance given the coming midterm elections in the United States and growing discontent in Europe over the costs of the war.
“There are at least two Wests,” Mr. Putin said.
One, he said, is a West of “traditional, mainly Christian values” for which Russians feel kinship. But, he said, “there’s another West — aggressive, cosmopolitan, neocolonial, acting as the weapon of the neoliberal elite,” and trying to impose its “pretty strange” values on everyone else. He peppered his remarks with references to “dozens of genders” and “gay parades.”
[Insert: Asshole. I hesitated to even post what the prick says, but he's making news by doing his best to kill a country as
part of his attack on the West. And on the rest of the world with his part in the driving of inflationary prices. So here it is.]
Mr. Putin, as he often does, portrayed Russia as threatened by the possible expansion of NATO — and the values of its liberal democracies — to countries like Ukraine that were once part of the Soviet Union.
He denied that Moscow was preparing to use nuclear weapons in the war in Ukraine. “We have no need to do this,” he said. “There’s no sense for us, neither political nor military.”
It is Mr. Putin himself, however, who has raised that prospect, as have other senior Russian officials. And past Kremlin assurances about its intentions have proved unreliable. In the days before the war began, for example, Russia denied that it planned to invade Ukraine.
Mr. Putin has tried to blame the West for the war in Ukraine. This residential building in Kyiv was hit by missiles on the second day of the
Russian invasion. Lynsey Addario for The New York Times
“This is a trick — it shouldn’t make anyone relax,” said Tatiana Stanovaya, a Russian political analyst, noting that Mr. Putin has blamed the West and its support for an independent Ukraine for every escalation in the war. “His goal is to show that escalation is the product of Western policies.”
In his nearly four-hour speech and question-and-answer session, the Russian leader did not mention the U.S. midterm elections taking place on Nov. 8. But his barbs against “elites” were a reminder that he still hopes to build alliances with supporters of Russia in the West.
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The State of the War [...many links...]
* Fears of Escalation: President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia repeated the unfounded claim that Ukraine was preparing to explode a so-called dirty bomb, as concerns rose in the West that the Kremlin was seeking a pretext to escalate the war.
* The Looming Fight for Kherson: As Russian forces pillage the occupied southern port city and pressure residents to leave for Russia, a nearby hydroelectric dam has emerged as a linchpin in what is shaping up to be the site of the next major battle in Ukraine.
* A Coalition Under Strain: President Biden is facing new challenges keeping together the bipartisan, multinational coalition supporting Ukraine, which has shown recent signs of fraying with the approach of U.S. midterm elections and a cold European winter.
* Anti-Drone Warfare: Since Russia began terrorizing Ukrainian cities in recent weeks with Iranian-made drones, Ukraine has turned its focus to an intense counter-drone strategy. The hastily assembled effort has been surprisingly successful.
---
In the United States, Republican leaders have said that should they regain control of the House and Senate, President Biden can no longer expect a “blank check” when it comes to sending military aid to Ukraine, despite strong popular backing for that aid .. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/three-four-americans-say-us-should-support-ukraine-despite-russian-threats-2022-10-05/ . Even some Democrats, faced with restive constituents, have appeared to distance themselves from support for the war effort.
And Mr. Putin’s attack on “elites” may also play well in the United States, where many Republican candidates have rallied voters by denouncing leaders they say are of touch, and their liberal approaches to divisive social issues.
“In the United States,” he said, “there’s a very strong part of the public who maintain traditional values, and they’re with us. We know about this.”
[They even lie about traditional values. The right to abortion is as much a traditional value
as the right to vote. Oops. they go after that one too. Anyway, back to abortion ..
Opinion | What Alito Gets Wrong About the History of Abortion in America
[...]Abortion in early pregnancy was not only commonplace but widely regarded as morally acceptable.
[...]Early European settlers of the Americas, enslaved Africans and Native Americans all had knowledge concerning menstrual regulation that women shared among themselves, with daughters, sisters and neighbors. European Americans could also look for guidance for treating “suppression of the menses” in a published health manual .. https://www.amazon.com/Abortion-America-Origins-Evolution-National/dp/0195026160 . Sitting on a shelf in their own homes might be a copy of the popular William Buchan’s Domestic Medicine .. https://wellcomecollection.org/works/fwp7hhg8 , first published in 1774 and republished many times into the mid-nineteenth century, The Married Lady’s Companion, or The Female Medical Repository, which all included similar advice for restoring menstruation through blood-letting, bathing or solutions composed of quinine, black hellebore, or juniper. The latter was the simplest for Americans to obtain since juniper bushes grew wild. Some indigenous women used the roots of black cohosh and enslaved Africans used snakeroot, cotton root and okra .. https://www.amazon.com/Laboring-Women-Reproduction-Slavery-American/dp/0812218736/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1KYIFIWRISQY8&keywords=jennifer+morgan+laboring+women&qid=1653155438&sprefix=jennifer+morgan%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-1 . By the mid-18th century, traveling salesmen in New England sold drugs explicitly to induce miscarriage. When these methods worked, the menses were “restored.”
P - Alito’s draft opinion sidesteps this well-established history.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=169673139]
Mr. Putin’s attempts to gain political ground in the West came as his military is struggling — often without success — to keep hold of the territory it seized in Ukraine after invading on Feb. 24.
Ukrainian soldiers receiving a meal near the front line in the Kherson region on Thursday. Ivor Prickett for The New York Times
In the question-and-answer session, the foreign policy analyst moderating the event, Fyodor Lukyanov, pressed Mr. Putin on those setbacks, and said there was a widespread view that Russia had “underestimated the enemy.”
“Honestly, society doesn’t understand — what’s the plan?” Mr. Lukyanov asked.
Mr. Putin brushed aside the implicit criticism, arguing that Ukraine’s fierce resistance showed that he was right to launch the invasion. The longer Russia had waited, he said, “the worse it would have been for us, the more difficult and more dangerous.”
Updates: Russia-Ukraine War
Updated
Oct. 27, 2022, 6:30 p.m. ET
* Pentagon strategy document outlines more dangerous challenges posed by Russia and China.
* The war will probably accelerate the global transition to clean energy, a new report says.
* China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, offers robust support for Mr. Putin.
Mr. Putin also repeated Russia’s claims that Ukraine was preparing to detonate a “dirty bomb” to spread radioactive material on its territory and then blame Moscow. Ukraine and the West say that the claims — for which Russia has offered no evidence — are baseless disinformation that could be used as a pretext by the Kremlin to use a nuclear weapon or a dirty bomb.
Ms. Stanovaya, the political analyst, said Mr. Putin appeared to be trying to harness worldwide anti-establishment sentiment.
“There’s now a sense that he is building an anti-Western coalition on a global scale,” she said. “He doesn’t think he’s been backed into a corner. He thinks he’s a witness to the birth of a new world.”
Mr. Putin himself said he was confident that eventually, the West would be forced to engage Russia and other world powers in talks on a future world order.
“I always believed, and believe, in the power of common sense,” Mr. Putin said. “I am therefore convinced that sooner or later, the new centers of the multipolar world order and the West will have to start a conversation of equals.”
As Western leaders have tried to punish Moscow for the war with crushing sanctions, Russian leaders have sought to build new ties to other nations and strengthen existing ones. On Thursday, the government of one of those nations, China, an increasingly important ally, offered a full-throated endorsement of Mr. Putin’s leadership.
In a telephone call with his Russian counterpart, Foreign Minister Wang Yi said that any attempt to block the progress between the two countries would never succeed, the Chinese ministry said in a statement.
In Ukraine on Thursday, Russian forces pursued their drone and missile assaults on infrastructure, leaving hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians without power. And the Ukrainian military said it was increasing the number of soldiers near its northern border with Belarus, where it noted what it said were unusual troop movements.
Tanks during Russian and Belarusian military drills in Belarus in February, days before the invasion of Ukraine.
Alexander Zemlianichenko Jr./Associated Press
Brig. Gen. Oleksii Hromov said Kyiv had no new evidence to suggest that Belarusian or Russian forces were preparing a strike force, but concern has mounted in recent days after the Kremlin dispatched thousands of soldiers .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/21/world/europe/ukraine-belarus-russian-troops.html .. to Belarus.
Moscow used Belarus, its closest military and political ally, to help stage its invasion of Ukraine, and the movement of Russian soldiers there is closely monitored by Ukraine and its Western allies.
Ukraine’s government has issued broad statements in recent weeks indicating that it was aware of the threat of an offensive from that direction, with the military releasing a video .. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1508480926281542 .. recently warning that “if the Belarusian army supports Russian aggression,” Kyiv would respond “with our entire arsenal of weapons.”
But the more immediate concern for Ukrainian officials is the continuing use of Belarus as a launching pad for aerial assaults.
Russia has deployed its troops to airfields in Belarus, and this week, it used Belarusian territory to carry out 10 launches of Iranian-made drones, General Hromov said.
Reporting was contributed by Eric Nagourney, Ivan Nechepurenko, Marc Santora, Carly Olson and Dan Bilefsky.
Putin and the American Right
How Russia and Right-Wing Americans Converged on War in Ukraine March 23, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/technology/russia-american-far-right-ukraine.html
The G.O.P.’s ‘Putin Wing’ April 7, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/briefing/republican-party-putin-wing.html
Why Putin name-checked J.K. Rowling March 31, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/putin-jk-rowling.html
Anton Troianovski is the Moscow bureau chief for The New York Times. He was previously Moscow bureau chief of The Washington Post and spent nine years with The Wall Street Journal in Berlin and New York. @antontroian
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/27/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-putin.html
"The War in Ukraine Is a Colonial War
For centuries, the country has lived in the shadow of empire. But its past also provides the key to its present.
By Timothy Snyder April 28, 2022"
The bastard really believes he will wear the West down. He has to be proven
wrong or it will open the floodgates to further invasions in years to come.
Ahead of U.S. elections, the Russian leader sounded like some right-wing Westerners, saying his fight is not with those in the West who hold “traditional values.”
President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia at an annual foreign policy conference he addressed on Thursday. Pavel Byrkin/Sputnik
By Anton Troianovski
Oct. 27, 2022
President Vladimir V. Putin declared on Thursday that Russia’s battle was with “Western elites,” not with the West itself, in a speech seemingly aimed more at winning over political conservatives abroad than his own citizens.
Mr. Putin, addressing an annual foreign policy conference outside Moscow, appeared intent on capitalizing on political divisions in the United States and its allies that have only heightened since they began showering Ukraine with military aid to fend off the Russian invasion.
Many of the Russian leader’s themes were familiar, but they took on particular resonance given the coming midterm elections in the United States and growing discontent in Europe over the costs of the war.
“There are at least two Wests,” Mr. Putin said.
One, he said, is a West of “traditional, mainly Christian values” for which Russians feel kinship. But, he said, “there’s another West — aggressive, cosmopolitan, neocolonial, acting as the weapon of the neoliberal elite,” and trying to impose its “pretty strange” values on everyone else. He peppered his remarks with references to “dozens of genders” and “gay parades.”
[Insert: Asshole. I hesitated to even post what the prick says, but he's making news by doing his best to kill a country as
part of his attack on the West. And on the rest of the world with his part in the driving of inflationary prices. So here it is.]
Mr. Putin, as he often does, portrayed Russia as threatened by the possible expansion of NATO — and the values of its liberal democracies — to countries like Ukraine that were once part of the Soviet Union.
He denied that Moscow was preparing to use nuclear weapons in the war in Ukraine. “We have no need to do this,” he said. “There’s no sense for us, neither political nor military.”
It is Mr. Putin himself, however, who has raised that prospect, as have other senior Russian officials. And past Kremlin assurances about its intentions have proved unreliable. In the days before the war began, for example, Russia denied that it planned to invade Ukraine.
Mr. Putin has tried to blame the West for the war in Ukraine. This residential building in Kyiv was hit by missiles on the second day of the
Russian invasion. Lynsey Addario for The New York Times
“This is a trick — it shouldn’t make anyone relax,” said Tatiana Stanovaya, a Russian political analyst, noting that Mr. Putin has blamed the West and its support for an independent Ukraine for every escalation in the war. “His goal is to show that escalation is the product of Western policies.”
In his nearly four-hour speech and question-and-answer session, the Russian leader did not mention the U.S. midterm elections taking place on Nov. 8. But his barbs against “elites” were a reminder that he still hopes to build alliances with supporters of Russia in the West.
---
The State of the War [...many links...]
* Fears of Escalation: President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia repeated the unfounded claim that Ukraine was preparing to explode a so-called dirty bomb, as concerns rose in the West that the Kremlin was seeking a pretext to escalate the war.
* The Looming Fight for Kherson: As Russian forces pillage the occupied southern port city and pressure residents to leave for Russia, a nearby hydroelectric dam has emerged as a linchpin in what is shaping up to be the site of the next major battle in Ukraine.
* A Coalition Under Strain: President Biden is facing new challenges keeping together the bipartisan, multinational coalition supporting Ukraine, which has shown recent signs of fraying with the approach of U.S. midterm elections and a cold European winter.
* Anti-Drone Warfare: Since Russia began terrorizing Ukrainian cities in recent weeks with Iranian-made drones, Ukraine has turned its focus to an intense counter-drone strategy. The hastily assembled effort has been surprisingly successful.
---
In the United States, Republican leaders have said that should they regain control of the House and Senate, President Biden can no longer expect a “blank check” when it comes to sending military aid to Ukraine, despite strong popular backing for that aid .. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/three-four-americans-say-us-should-support-ukraine-despite-russian-threats-2022-10-05/ . Even some Democrats, faced with restive constituents, have appeared to distance themselves from support for the war effort.
And Mr. Putin’s attack on “elites” may also play well in the United States, where many Republican candidates have rallied voters by denouncing leaders they say are of touch, and their liberal approaches to divisive social issues.
“In the United States,” he said, “there’s a very strong part of the public who maintain traditional values, and they’re with us. We know about this.”
[They even lie about traditional values. The right to abortion is as much a traditional value
as the right to vote. Oops. they go after that one too. Anyway, back to abortion ..
Opinion | What Alito Gets Wrong About the History of Abortion in America
[...]Abortion in early pregnancy was not only commonplace but widely regarded as morally acceptable.
[...]Early European settlers of the Americas, enslaved Africans and Native Americans all had knowledge concerning menstrual regulation that women shared among themselves, with daughters, sisters and neighbors. European Americans could also look for guidance for treating “suppression of the menses” in a published health manual .. https://www.amazon.com/Abortion-America-Origins-Evolution-National/dp/0195026160 . Sitting on a shelf in their own homes might be a copy of the popular William Buchan’s Domestic Medicine .. https://wellcomecollection.org/works/fwp7hhg8 , first published in 1774 and republished many times into the mid-nineteenth century, The Married Lady’s Companion, or The Female Medical Repository, which all included similar advice for restoring menstruation through blood-letting, bathing or solutions composed of quinine, black hellebore, or juniper. The latter was the simplest for Americans to obtain since juniper bushes grew wild. Some indigenous women used the roots of black cohosh and enslaved Africans used snakeroot, cotton root and okra .. https://www.amazon.com/Laboring-Women-Reproduction-Slavery-American/dp/0812218736/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1KYIFIWRISQY8&keywords=jennifer+morgan+laboring+women&qid=1653155438&sprefix=jennifer+morgan%2Caps%2C96&sr=8-1 . By the mid-18th century, traveling salesmen in New England sold drugs explicitly to induce miscarriage. When these methods worked, the menses were “restored.”
P - Alito’s draft opinion sidesteps this well-established history.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=169673139]
Mr. Putin’s attempts to gain political ground in the West came as his military is struggling — often without success — to keep hold of the territory it seized in Ukraine after invading on Feb. 24.
Ukrainian soldiers receiving a meal near the front line in the Kherson region on Thursday. Ivor Prickett for The New York Times
In the question-and-answer session, the foreign policy analyst moderating the event, Fyodor Lukyanov, pressed Mr. Putin on those setbacks, and said there was a widespread view that Russia had “underestimated the enemy.”
“Honestly, society doesn’t understand — what’s the plan?” Mr. Lukyanov asked.
Mr. Putin brushed aside the implicit criticism, arguing that Ukraine’s fierce resistance showed that he was right to launch the invasion. The longer Russia had waited, he said, “the worse it would have been for us, the more difficult and more dangerous.”
Updates: Russia-Ukraine War
Updated
Oct. 27, 2022, 6:30 p.m. ET
* Pentagon strategy document outlines more dangerous challenges posed by Russia and China.
* The war will probably accelerate the global transition to clean energy, a new report says.
* China’s foreign minister, Wang Yi, offers robust support for Mr. Putin.
Mr. Putin also repeated Russia’s claims that Ukraine was preparing to detonate a “dirty bomb” to spread radioactive material on its territory and then blame Moscow. Ukraine and the West say that the claims — for which Russia has offered no evidence — are baseless disinformation that could be used as a pretext by the Kremlin to use a nuclear weapon or a dirty bomb.
Ms. Stanovaya, the political analyst, said Mr. Putin appeared to be trying to harness worldwide anti-establishment sentiment.
“There’s now a sense that he is building an anti-Western coalition on a global scale,” she said. “He doesn’t think he’s been backed into a corner. He thinks he’s a witness to the birth of a new world.”
Mr. Putin himself said he was confident that eventually, the West would be forced to engage Russia and other world powers in talks on a future world order.
“I always believed, and believe, in the power of common sense,” Mr. Putin said. “I am therefore convinced that sooner or later, the new centers of the multipolar world order and the West will have to start a conversation of equals.”
As Western leaders have tried to punish Moscow for the war with crushing sanctions, Russian leaders have sought to build new ties to other nations and strengthen existing ones. On Thursday, the government of one of those nations, China, an increasingly important ally, offered a full-throated endorsement of Mr. Putin’s leadership.
In a telephone call with his Russian counterpart, Foreign Minister Wang Yi said that any attempt to block the progress between the two countries would never succeed, the Chinese ministry said in a statement.
In Ukraine on Thursday, Russian forces pursued their drone and missile assaults on infrastructure, leaving hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians without power. And the Ukrainian military said it was increasing the number of soldiers near its northern border with Belarus, where it noted what it said were unusual troop movements.
Tanks during Russian and Belarusian military drills in Belarus in February, days before the invasion of Ukraine.
Alexander Zemlianichenko Jr./Associated Press
Brig. Gen. Oleksii Hromov said Kyiv had no new evidence to suggest that Belarusian or Russian forces were preparing a strike force, but concern has mounted in recent days after the Kremlin dispatched thousands of soldiers .. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/21/world/europe/ukraine-belarus-russian-troops.html .. to Belarus.
Moscow used Belarus, its closest military and political ally, to help stage its invasion of Ukraine, and the movement of Russian soldiers there is closely monitored by Ukraine and its Western allies.
Ukraine’s government has issued broad statements in recent weeks indicating that it was aware of the threat of an offensive from that direction, with the military releasing a video .. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1508480926281542 .. recently warning that “if the Belarusian army supports Russian aggression,” Kyiv would respond “with our entire arsenal of weapons.”
But the more immediate concern for Ukrainian officials is the continuing use of Belarus as a launching pad for aerial assaults.
Russia has deployed its troops to airfields in Belarus, and this week, it used Belarusian territory to carry out 10 launches of Iranian-made drones, General Hromov said.
Reporting was contributed by Eric Nagourney, Ivan Nechepurenko, Marc Santora, Carly Olson and Dan Bilefsky.
Putin and the American Right
How Russia and Right-Wing Americans Converged on War in Ukraine March 23, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/23/technology/russia-american-far-right-ukraine.html
The G.O.P.’s ‘Putin Wing’ April 7, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/07/briefing/republican-party-putin-wing.html
Why Putin name-checked J.K. Rowling March 31, 2022
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/putin-jk-rowling.html
Anton Troianovski is the Moscow bureau chief for The New York Times. He was previously Moscow bureau chief of The Washington Post and spent nine years with The Wall Street Journal in Berlin and New York. @antontroian
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/27/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-putin.html
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