Tornado Alley (PROG)

[blackhawks]

Hey, nobody is surprised that you're belief centric. Your willingness to believe evidence free assertions is a tell.

Your beliefs are simplistic either or formulations. Life does not mirror that.

We have a better chance of achieving energy independence with a mix of energy sources that are economical and environmentally sound. Better to have solar, wind and natural gas making up a growing shares of the energy pie chart.

It's not a question of the superiority of the individual over the government. The social contract is meant to balance freedom, rights and protection.

Hobbes nailed it and the Founding Fathers massaged it. The argument of the latter was that men are not angels, hence government.

Hobbes's Leviathan

https://www.bl.uk/collection-items/hobbess-leviathan

Hobbes proposed that the natural basic state of humankind is one of anarchy, with the strong dominating the weak. Life for most people, he said, was 'solitary, poore, nasty, brutish and short'. Therefore, our one natural right is of self-preservation.

In order to remove that basic fear between individuals or groups, Hobbes suggested that people should 'contract' with a protector as their sovereign. Under this social contract individuals give up all rights, while those of the protector are absolute. He did not, though, believe in divine right. Hobbes's key point was that any protector was there by specific agreement with their subjects.