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Sunday, 09/25/2022 11:46:47 AM

Sunday, September 25, 2022 11:46:47 AM

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The fear of civil unrest. The fear of tearing the nation apart.
In my opinion, this is the reason why Trump has not been indicted, YET!


In America no one wants to see a sitting president or a former president indicted for serious felonies. Because that means something has gone terribly wrong. We want all of our presidents to be law abiding. Throughout our history the large majority of our presidents were law abiding. We had a couple of bad apples like Nixon who did the right thing by resigning. Ford pardoned him for the reason I stated above.

Then someone like Trump comes along and puts us in a position no one wants to be in. Trump was and is so corrupt we do not have any choice but to indict him. Not indicting him would destroy the rule of law and our democracy with it.

Now Garland is faced with the horrible truth a former president must be indicted. The full weight of our history, our future is on Garlands shoulders. He knows what is at stake. He knows he has to get this right, make no mistakes. He must do this in a way that limits the damage to our nation and does not tear the country to pieces. Garland, not us, has to consider all of this. The pressure on him must be off the charts.

I wanted Trump arrested immediately after they searched his resort and found top secret documents. That would have made me very happy, but I also understand doing so would have set off a firestorm across the country.

The same goes for Jan 6th. We all know Trump is guilty of multiple felonies. I want justice now, but I understood from the beginning this was the largest investigation in our history. It was going to take time, it has to be done right.

The problems we are seeing know are not being caused by Garland, the DOJ/FBI. They are being caused by Trump. Trump has put us in a position no one wants to be in. A position no one has ever faced before.

It all falls on Garlands shoulders. He will follow the law and indict Trump. But he has the unimaginable task of bringing down a former president without a rule book. Something that has never done before and he has to do it in way that will cause the least amount of turmoil to our nation.

We should all wish Garland the best of luck.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100217192263

2. He has to make the argument to not indict almost impossible.

The evidence has to be over-whelming and it getting near that point.

It has to be indefensible.

3. Garland has a rule book

It's the U.S. Code. It lists the elements of crimes and potential defenses. Being an ex-president is not a defense. Fear of firestorms assuredly is not a defense. The very people we fear have already shown their contempt for the U.S. Code. One by one they are being tried, convicted and incarcerated. If they want more, bring it on. This time we'll be ready for them.

5. I don't fear it. I would rather die fighting Fascism than to live under it.

I think that the fall of Trump will bring violence and death to the streets, but that it would be short-lived. The Nation would get sick of it really quickly. The "Real Americans" that want a new civil war won't get it. The people that we "fear" are basically cowards and bullies, they will slink away at the first signs of fierce resistance.

If we have to make war on criminal gangs to protect our future, then bring it. Deal with them with an iron fist. It is a growing pain that we may have to suffer or accept government by tyrants. It seems that every so often that Nazis have to be reminded of how the world really views them and the good people have to stuff their hateful asses back into the box from which they crawl.

If America lets the fear of a minority of bullies scare us away from justice, then we have lost our nation.

6. Your opinion is based on no evidence whatsoever.

Investigations and prosecutions are not as quick as they are on TV (Watergate took two years). And Garland has spoken previously about the methodically approach DOJ has taken. There is no evidence that "fear of civil unrest" is delaying matters.

7. I didn't say it was. My opinion is based on commonsense.

Garlands decision to indict a former president will be unprecedented. It will set off a political firestorm. You don't think Garland has to consider that? Of course he does. How he presents his indictments, the evidence he shows, matters big time.

He has to make this look as non-political as possible, not an easy task.
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