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Monday, 09/12/2022 9:39:08 PM

Monday, September 12, 2022 9:39:08 PM

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Applebaum's talk of victory is premature to say the least. And wouldn't think even losing in Ukraine could bring Putin
down. Linking it now to Putin's end i don't see as useful to anyone or anything. Anyway, to the end of her piece:

"t’s Time to Prepare for a Ukrainian Victory
The liberation of Russian-occupied territory might bring down Vladimir Putin.
"

[...]Even if they prove ephemeral, the events of the past few days do change the nature of this war. From the very beginning, everybody—Europeans, Americans, the global business community in particular—has wanted a return to stability. But the path to stability in Ukraine, long-lasting stability, has been hard to see. After all, any cease-fire imposed too early could be treated, by Moscow, as an opportunity to rearm. Any offer to negotiate could be understood, in Moscow, as a sign of weakness. But now is the time to ask about the stability of Russia itself and to factor that question into our plans. Russian soldiers are running away, ditching their equipment, asking to surrender. How long do we have to wait until the men in Putin’s inner circle do the same?

The possibility of instability in Russia, a nuclear power, terrifies many. But it may now be unavoidable. And if that’s what is coming, we should anticipate it, plan for it, think about the possibilities as well as the dangers. “We have learned not to be scared,” Reznikov told his Kyiv audience on Saturday. “Now we ask the rest of you not to be scared too.”

Anne Applebaum is a staff writer at The Atlantic.

Your .. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/ukraine-victory-russia-putin/671405/

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