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sortagreen, Any worry of conservative troll involvement on this board undermining western democracy, i think, misses much.

"He doesn't have enough fun posting on his "white nationalists only" boards, but he can come here and spread his Russian propaganda day after day.
P - It's slander.
P - That's exactly how the Russians have undermined every western democracy."

He and the others do try to undermine democracy however in this microcosm their misinformation is well and truly countered by the rebuttal information he and other conservative trolls receive here. Rebuttal information supplied by you, and by others. Also much of the rebuttal work adds to the pool of truth knowledge gained by many involved with this board. Whether that involvement is by posting or through reading, or a mixture of both, many here experience a positive gain by bumping up against a considerable volume of information which they may not otherwise see if it were not for troll input on this board.

You're right, much of his crap is slanderous, however much is part of the contract in your free speech America environment. You well know of the license to lies and misinformation given to America by your SCOTUS.

His and other trolls "white nationalist" sentiments are probably better understood, and more comprehensively rebutted here than in many other places simply because of the tolerance extended to him and other trolls by this board. The tolerance extended today is a tolerance which was extended by F6 from his beginning here. And it is a measured and positive position to our minds. Our being the active moderators here. More than one post stands in support of our positive rebuttal claim, One here, with a couple of extra links added today:

hap, The guy was a hero. Crowds were ecstatic
"Hey -- you have a winner
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Of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Mr. Trump, only one, Rep. David Valadao of California, has survived a primary so far..."

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What the Kenosha shooter tells us about Donald Trump's America
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.. the next two added today ..
Russia Is Co-opting Angry Young Men
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What’s New About the New Authoritarianism?
"Why Superpower Crises Are a Good Thing
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The pressure cooker America is dealing with today is the culmination of 400 years of human rights violations by white supremacists against marginalized and disenfranchised American people being swept under the rug. To top it off, for the last four years we have an administration that is working against any progress that has been made toward equity and a dialogue of progress, in many cases putting forth outright white nationalist policies in the face of that progress. Now, we're facing a dire multi-layered situation with protests against those racist policies and the killing of unarmed black Americans, a heated election coming up, mass job loss and economic hardship, and a pandemic with no real end in sight.
P - All this uncertainty and raw emotion and fear, not to mention the plethora of guns and vigilantism occurring on the streets, plus the propaganda, fake news, and misinformation radicalizing people who are spending most of their time online these days, I fear we are in a critical juncture for the future of our nation.
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conix, White Men With Guns
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Biden launches assault on monopolies
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The Future of Republican Support for the Electoral College
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Yes. We know where experts on fascism see the movement in your world.

Father of Fascism Studies: Donald Trump Shows Alarming Willingness to Use Fascist Terms & Styles
2018 - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=143725977

Is Donald Trump a Fascist? Part 2 of Interview with Robert Paxton, Father of Fascism Studies
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Hitler’s world may not be so far away
"That was an odd choice. In truth a lot of German prisoners didn't make it to the rear holding areas either."
The long read Holocaust
Misunderstanding the Holocaust has made us too certain we are ethically superior to the Europeans of the 1940s. Faced with a new catastrophe – such as devastating climate change – could we become mass killers again?
Timothy Snyder
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On Tyranny: Twenty Lessons from the Twentieth Century by Timothy Snyder – review
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Mainstream GOP fascism
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A politically correct face of fascism?
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What the GOP wants
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And, as if in confirmation, delegates to a convention of the Texas Republican Party today approved platform planks rejecting “the certified results of the 2020 Presidential election, and [holding] that acting President Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. was not legitimately elected by the people of the United States”; requiring students “to learn about the dignity of the preborn human,” including that life begins at fertilization; treating homosexuality as “an abnormal lifestyle choice”;...
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What Gamergate should have taught us about the 'alt-right'
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Looking back, Gamergate really only made sense in one way: as an exemplar of what Umberto Eco called “eternal fascism”, a form of extremism he believed could flourish at any point in, in any place – a fascism that would extol traditional values, rally against diversity and cultural critics, believe in the value of action above thought and encourage a distrust of intellectuals or experts – a fascism built on frustration and machismo. The requirement of this formless fascism would – above all else – be to remain in an endless state of conflict, a fight against a foe who must always be portrayed as impossibly strong and laughably weak. This was the methodology of Gamergate, and it now forms the basis of the contemporary far-right movement.
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The First Amendment in the age of disinformation.
"The strange Republican world where the big lie lives on and Trump is fighting to save democracy
"We see this so called celebration played out daily in Congress, in society and on these boards.
P - Their ideology celebrates faith at the expense of reason and directs them away from attempts to innovate and improve
the world around them, which is seen as dangerous because attempts to improve ‘may’ turn out to be destructive.[11]
P - The Limits of Dialogue Between Faith and Reason: Russell Kirk, John Stuart Mill, and The Stupid Party""
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The conspiracy theories, the lies, the distortions, the overwhelming amount of information, the anger encoded in it — these all serve to create chaos and confusion and make people, even nonpartisans, exhausted, skeptical and cynical about politics. The spewing of falsehoods isn’t meant to win any battle of ideas. Its goal is to prevent the actual battle from being fought, by causing us to simply give up. And the problem isn’t just the internet. A working paper .. https://cyber.harvard.edu/people/ybenkler .. from the Berkman Klein Center for Internet and Society at Harvard released early this month found that effective disinformation campaigns are often an “elite-driven, mass-media led process” in which “social media played only a secondary and supportive role.” Trump’s election put him in the position to operate directly through Fox News and other conservative media outlets, like Rush Limbaugh’s talk-radio show, which have come to function “in effect as a party press,” the Harvard researchers found.
P - The false story about Democrats plotting a coup spread through a typical feedback loop. Links from Fox News hosts and other right-wing figures aligned with Trump, like Bongino,...
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Part 1: Yale Historian Timothy Snyder on How the U.S. Can Avoid Sliding into Authoritarianism

.. with other articles ..
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Yay. Authoritarianism is making a comeback. Here's the time-tested way to defeat it
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Slightly adapted from an earlier post on the Globalist Reality Board ..
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The above an excerpt from a post to hap0206 on August 5, 2022 ..
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PS: You know your position on trolls here has been dealt with a number of times
over years. You also know your sentient is well understood. And appreciated.