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Sedition: Why not Trump, Rep. Paul Gosar (R-Ariz.), Rep. Lauren Boebert (R-Colo.), Rep. Mo Brooks (R-Ala.),
Rep. Madison Cawthorn (R-N.C.), Rep. Andy Biggs (R-Ariz.), and Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas)
Why Republicans may let Greene and Gosar's latest brushfire burn itself out
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"The two most high-profile trials — involving the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys — are expected to take place this summer and fall.
p - Henry “Enrique” Tarrio, who was once the Proud Boys’ top boss, and four others linked to the group were charged on Monday with seditious conspiracy after previously facing other conspiracy counts. They are scheduled to stand trial beginning Aug. 9.
p - Tarrio, who has since stepped down from his post as the group’s chairman, was arrested in a separate case two days before the riot and was not at the Capitol on Jan. 6. But he is accused of helping put into motion the violent attack.
p - The trial for the Oath Keepers leader, Stewart Rhodes, and four other members and associates the group is scheduled to start Sept. 26. Prosecutors say the Oath Keepers plotted for weeks to try to overturn the election results and prepared for a siege by purchasing weapons and setting up battle plans.
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See hap, Opinion: Yes, Jan. 6 fits the definition of insurrection | Bill Haug
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Insurrection: 1. Federal law, 18 U.S. Code 2383 - Rebellion or Insurrection .. https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-1999-title18-section2383&num=0&edition=1999 .. states “Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”
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3. The article of impeachment against Donald Trump on Jan. 13, 2021 was for “incitement of insurrection .. https://www.npr.org/sections/trump-impeachment-effort-live-updates/2021/01/11/955631105/impeachment-resolution-cites-trumps-incitement-of-capitol-insurrection .” The full Congress voted on a bipartisan basis to impeach, 232-197, with 10 Republicans in favor. This bipartisan majority vote of Congress is a significant indicator that what occurred was an insurrection.

4. A bipartisan majority of the Senate voted to convict Trump of “incitement of insurrection .. https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-02-13/senate-acquits-trump-of-incitement-of-insurrection-in-impeachment-trial .. ,” 57-43. Seven Republicans voted to convict. The vote failed only because a supermajority of 67 is required. This is the closest any president has ever come to conviction and removal. That a bipartisan majority of the Senate voted to convict Trump of “incitement of insurrection” is another important indication that this was, in fact, an insurrection.

5. On Dec. 23, 2021, three legal scholars, Professor Laurence Tribe, former Deputy Attorney General Donald Ayer, and former federal prosecutor Dennis Aftergut wrote an opinion piece in the New York Times entitled “Will Donald Trump Get Away With Inciting an Insurrection .. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/23/opinion/trump-capitol-riot-january-6th.html?searchResultPosition=1 ?” Professor Tribe has argued 35 cases before the U.S. Supreme Court, winning every case with a record of 35-0. Donald Ayer was named U.S. attorney general by Ronald Reagan and served as deputy attorney general under President George H.W. Bush. Dennis Aftergut has argued and won cases before the Supreme Court.

Those who decided to cooperate with the probe made the only right decision after having, with Trump, wronged America before.

The Trump supporters who went from planning the Jan. 6 rally to aiding the riot probe
December 23, 20214:56 PM ET
Heard on All Things Considered
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SHAPIRO: Jen Lawrence and Dustin Stockton helped organize a number of rallies to overturn the election, including the big one in Washington last January 6. That rally was immediately followed by a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol. Well, they are now cooperating with the House Select Committee investigating the events of that day, and they have also told their story to reporter Hunter Walker, who's written about them for Rolling Stone. He says they used to work closely with Trump adviser Steve Bannon.

WALKER: They were involved with him when he was at Breitbart, reporting directly to him on the, quote, unquote, "special projects desk." And these efforts consist of things like, you know, embedding themselves with Bernie Sanders activists at the 2016 DNC and fomenting some of their protests against Hillary Clinton. They got back with him in 2019 and were working on Rebuild the Wall. The project raised $25 million and did succeed in erecting three miles of barrier along the southern border. But ultimately, it ended in this pretty wild federal investigation where Bannon and other leaders of the group were charged with, you know, saying they were not going to take payment, but yet paying themselves out of those donor funds. Dustin and Jen were never charged, but their RV was raided one day in the desert by this obscure investigative arm of the U.S. Postal Service, believe it or not.

SHAPIRO: Now what did they tell you about their role in organizing the January 6 rally that immediately preceded the assault on the Capitol?

WALKER: So, you know, I think one thing people should understand is there wasn't one thing on January 6. There was this major rally on the Ellipse that was put together by this group, Women for America First, largely. There was also this, quote, unquote, "wild protest," which was scheduled to take place right on the side of the Capitol. And that was organized mostly by this far-right activist Ali Alexander. In the lead-up to January 6 in the months between the election and the electoral certification in Congress that day, both the organizers of the wild protest and the main Ellipse rally had these nationwide tours. And Dustin and Jen were prominent speakers at this March for Trump bus tour, where they promoted the baseless allegations of fraud. And they also were involved that day. They were in the VIP section on the Ellipse, you know, and they helped to get guests and promote all of those different events challenging the election.

SHAPIRO: They painted a very favorable picture to you of their involvement and their sort of revulsion at the violence and their shock that that armed attackers would storm the Capitol. Do you buy it?

WALKER: Yeah, so to hear them tell it, you know, they early on raised questions about violence that day. They were worried about this wild protest that was set to take place at the Capitol and thought people shouldn't be brought that close. They also had no idea people were going to march to the Capitol and were kind of shocked when President Trump called on folks to do that. And they claim that they did not participate themselves and go to the Capitol. There's a lot of reasons to take that with a grain of salt. As we've alluded to, they've promoted misinformation in the past. They were part of this group that's under investigation. And of course, they could be looking to make deals now that there's a congressional investigation raging and they've been subpoenaed.

But I should say, you know, some evidence supports what they've told me before. I've personally reviewed tons of text messages from the Ellipse rally planning. Members of that group did seem dismayed at Alexander's, quote, unquote, "wild protest." And of course, in the massive FBI investigation looking into the Capitol, there's been no indication that Dustin and Jen ever went inside. And also, I've seen text messages where they sort of argued with other Ellipse rally organizers and urged them to come out more strongly in the day after the riots and denounced what had happened at the Capitol.

SHAPIRO: You point out that they did say things at other previous rallies that could be interpreted as incitements to violence.

WALKER: Yeah. You know, they would say things like we have to fight, you know, using almost warlike language and, you know, framing this as a generational struggle.
https://www.npr.org/2021/12/23/1067598857/the-trump-supporters-who-went-from-planning-the-jan-6-rally-to-aiding-the-riot-p

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