Tornado Alley (PROG)

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You can cut with the personal crap Faug,,,If only in my mind, it makes you and others that do it look small...

When this started I said we need to stand up to a bully, that I appreciated Biden's approach of transparency, not giving Putin a pretext,,

I was a lone voice, thats ok....But I also said as time goes peoples views will change....The Ukrainians embodiment of our values and their steadfast bravery, the humanitarian crisis, the use of siege tactics...

Well, people are changing, a poll showed 46% think we should do more,,the same said less....

The debate about Offensive and defensive weapons is changing too and the Ukrainians are asking for what they think they need to win...NFZ and Humanitarian NFZ is now more in debate...In the end we may get to my original view that we need to jump in and help these folks..We shall see how it all turn out..

In Biden's words today I find agreement with him..And, as usual, I don't give a rats butt what other think but am always open to civil discussion...I remain open minded but still have heard nothing to dissuade me from my position..

"What's at stake here is not just what we're doing in Ukraine to try to help the Ukrainian people and try to keep the massacre from continuing," Biden said. "Beyond that is what are your kids and grandkids going to look like in terms of their freedom."

"What you're engaging in is much bigger than whether or not you can alleviate the pain and suffering of the people of Ukraine. We're in a new phase, we're at an inflection point," he said. Biden added that the world will not be the same in 10 or 15 years and the question is: "Who's going to prevail," democracy or autocracy.

You are the finest fighting force in the history of the world," Biden said.

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