Tornado Alley (PROG)

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You actually think borders should go back to pre-1967? Where else and when in the history of the world, has a country beaten its attackers and then been expected to give the lands taken in defense back to those same attackers?

Well, as hard as it is to deal with that level of ignorance, let me try...

Yeah. That's the law; the law we signed, the one we wrote.

Secondly, there's a bit of dispute here about who attacked whom.

"The right of conquest is the right of a conqueror to territory taken by force of arms. It was traditionally a principle of international law which has in modern times gradually given way until its proscription after the Second World War when the crime of war of aggression was first codified in the Nuremberg Principles and then finally, in 1974, as a United Nations resolution 3314."

https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Right_of_conquest

But if you find that unpalatable, let's go back to your statement that Israeli Arabs have full civil rights. Clearly none of the Arabs in the territories have any rights at all... yet you're claiming those territories are yours by right. What shall the inhabitants of your little Bantustans do? Just die?

And the ones you drove out? They have no rights either.

The ones who live in East Jerusalem? You're driving them out as we speak.

You don't like me posting the map of your ongoing ethnic cleansing? Gosh. Why is that? Is it untrue?

"Israel left Gaza ages ago, how's the infrastructure construction going there?"

Israel has bombed all the infrastructure flat, the sewage treatment, the water treatment, the ports, the schools. They've forbidden any NGOs or nations to rebuild them. When anyone tries, Israel bombs it flat again.

When the Palestinians protest, even peacefully, Israeli snipers shoot them. Extra points for the kneecaps. Extra points for the journalists. And ordinary Israeli citizens bring lawn chairs to their rooftops and the hillsides to watch and cheer

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/20/israelis-cheer-gaza-bombing

"Since the spring of 2018, at least 260 Palestinians in Gaza have been killed by Israeli forces — and more than 20,000 wounded— during a sustained nonviolent protest. They were among tens of thousands of Palestinians in Gaza taking part in the Great Return March. "


-Jehad Abusalim

Jehad Abusalim is the Education and Policy Associate of the Palestine Activism Program at the American Friends Service Committee. He is completing his PhD in the History and Hebrew and Judaic Studies joint program at New York University.


https://www.afsc.org/blogs/news-and-commentary/what-is-great-return-march

"The report states there are, “reasonable grounds to believe that Israeli snipers shot at journalists, health workers, children and persons with disabilities, knowing they were clearly recognisable as such.” The report also criticizes the protest organizers for allowing some demonstrators to commit violence."

https://jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2019/03/killed-for-protesting-6-things-to-know-about-the-great-return-march/

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/two-years-on-people-injured-and-traumatized-during-the-great-march-of-return-are-still-struggling/

In reality Israel never left Gaza. They simply turned it into a vast ghetto/prison a place where they can test out their latest weapons, and then market them as "battle tested". I can hardly recognize these people as fellow Jews.



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