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The Jan. 6 Committee Is Promising It Has the Goods. We’re About to Find Out
December 3, 2021 9:33AM ET
"It’s coming.
First things first.
The Truth, is undeniable, irrefutable."
It feels now or never. If Trump's Big Lie culminating in Jan. 6 is not
made a serious watershed moment i hate to think of what is needed.
Liz Cheney says “several weeks” of public hearings that will tell the story of the riot at the Capitol in “vivid color” are coming in 2022
By Ryan Bort
All links
Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) testifies during the House Rules Committee meeting on the "Resolution Recommending That The House Of Representatives Find Jeffrey Bossert Clark In Contempt Of Congress For Refusal To Comply With A Subpoena Duly Issued By The Select Committee To Investigate The Jan. 6 Attack On The United States Capitol," on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021.
Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call/AP Images
The House Select Committee to Investigate the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol has been busy.
In the five months since the probe was launched, the committee has issued dozens of subpoenas to high-profile members of former President Trump’s circle, as well as a smattering of other MAGA-affiliated figures involved in the effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. The process has been fraught for a number of reasons, but revelations that have emerged .. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/exclusive-jan-6-organizers-met-congress-white-house-1245289/ .. from Rolling Stone’s conversations with cooperating sources indicate the committee could be sitting on a mountain of material — material that could clarify what happened on Jan. 6, and who’s to blame for it.
Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) has offered a sense of what to expect from the investigation as the calendar turns. In short, expect a lot.
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Trump's Biggest Issue With Jan. 6 Is That Nobody Is Talking About His Rally's Crowd Size
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-complains-jan-6-rally-crowd-size-coverage-1265771/
'Trump Called Us to D.C.': Capitol Rioter Who Tased Cop Blames Trump for Jan. 6 Attack. So Does a Federal Judge
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/judge-trump-stoked-flames-fear-jan-6-1265485/
“We are making rapid progress,” the committee’s vice chair said at a House Rules Committee hearing on Thursday. “We anticipate next year, we will be conducting multiple weeks of public hearings, setting out for the American people in vivid color exactly what happened, every minute of the day on January 6th, here at the Capitol and at the White House, and what led to that violent attack.”
Cheney’s announcement signals a new phase of the investigation, in which the committee will push the machinations behind what happened on Jan. 6 into public view. The makeup of these forthcoming hearings is unclear, but the fact that they’re public and will last for “several weeks” should cement Jan. 6 as a key issue throughout the 2022 campaign season.
One figure of interest who seems open to testifying publicly is Bernard Kerik, the former New York City police commissioner and pal to Rudy Giuliani. Politico reported on Thursday that Kerik won’t provide documents unless he’s allowed to testify publicly. He’d previously said he’d comply with his subpoena but demanded the committee apologized to him for making “false statements.”
Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist who reportedly helped plan the rally at the Ellipse, and Jeffrey Clark, a former Justice Department official whom the committee on Wednesday night recommended be charged with contempt for defying his subpoena, have also indicated they’d be open to testifying publicly. The committee probably won’t be interested, though. Public testimony makes it easier for witnesses to coordinate their stories, which would make it more difficult for the committee to piece together what actually happened on Jan. 6, rather than what a bunch of Trump allies want people to think happened.
Signaling a willingness to testify publicly makes it seem like a witness want to comply, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t effectively obeying Trump’s directive to stonewall the committee. Trump has done so himself through his likely doomed effort to prevent the committee from getting ahold of White House documents from the National Archives. Bannon did so extremely publicly in refusing to show up for his deposition and was subsequently charged with criminal contempt. Mark Meadows has agreed to cooperate, reaching an agreement with the committee this week .. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/us/politics/capitol-riot-investigation-meadows.html .. after first refusing to comply. It’s unclear to what extent Stephen Miller, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone, and other high-profile Trump allies will play ball, but it wouldn’t be surprising if many of them follow Trump and do what they can to stick it to the committee.
It’s easy to focus only on the big names and what they’re doing to make the committee’s work more difficult, but Cheney promising weeks of “vivid color” recounting of what happened is a reminder that the committee has been in touch with an untold number of other figures who were swirling around Trump’s efforts to overturn the election. Chairman Bennie Thompson (R-Miss.) said on Thursday that they’ve interviewed 250 people .. https://apnews.com/article/steve-bannon-donald-trump-elections-capitol-siege-36b68bd9e0c701fea8e6b11f00292604 , most of which have cooperated voluntarily. The committee seems confident they’ve already drawn enough to paint a clear picture of why, how, and at whose direction hundreds of Trump supporters were able to break into the Capitol in a violent attempt to overthrow American democracy. We’ll see next year.
Update: The post was updated to remove a suggestion that Bernie Kerik participated in a Jan. 5 meeting where Giuliani, Steve Bannon, John Eastman, and others discussed how to overturn the 2020 election results.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/liz-cheney-jan-6-committee-public-hearings-1265974/
See also:
White House metadata? No wonder Jeffrey Clark is pleading the fifth – and it’s all landing in Donald Trump’s lap
[...]
Jeffrey Clark is in legal trouble because he sent a letter to Georgia officials, demanding in bad faith that they overturn the election results, which constitutes election tampering. Tonight MSNBC is reporting that the January 6th Committee has discovered White House metadata on Clark’s letter, which means the letter electronically passed through the Trump White House at some point.
[...]
Right now the Jeffrey Clark situation is confusing and there appear to be more moving parts than we know about. That’s before even getting to Trump lawyer John Eastman’s decision to also plead the fifth to the January 6th Committee. But as these things tend to go, more details and context should emerge this weekend, and we’ll soon likely have a much clearer picture about what’s really going on here.
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How stupid is Trump - Interesting article
[...]
Over the next two months Giuliani repeatedly advanced Trump's claims of election fraud in public. On one occasion he did so with black hair dye running down the side of face.
[...]
It's bad enough for people like Giuliani, Lindell, Powell, and Wood to be circling the White House, seeking to exert influence on the president. It's far, far worse for the president to listen to what these morons say and think, "Yes, this is good advice." That shows an almost psychotic level of inanity.
P - Even worse, when the person sitting behind the Resolute Desk is that easily manipulated, he might also come under the influence of people who aren't morons but who want to advance their own agendas by preying on presidential witlessness. Think here of John Eastman, the conservative legal scholar who convinced Trump in the days leading up to Jan. 6 that Mike Pence could single-handedly act to keep Congress from certifying Joe Biden's electoral victory.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=166736375
January 6 committee issues 6 subpoenas to top Trump campaign associates, including Michael Flynn and John Eastman
[...]
The six subpoenas are going to:
* Trump 2020 campaign manager William Stepien
* Former senior adviser to the campaign Jason Miller
* John Eastman, an attorney who helped craft Trump's argument that the election was stolen
* Michael Flynn, who was involved in meeting about how the Trump campaign wanted to promote the lie that the election was stolen
* Angela McCallum, national executive assistant to former President Trump's 2020 reelection campaign
* Bernard Kerik, who participated in a meeting at the Willard Hotel centered around overturing election results.
P - All six individuals are being asked to supply the committee with documents on November 23, with depositions scheduled spanning the last week of November into mid December.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=166692074
Top post! "...and this, I promise you, was just a scrimmage. The real ball game still awaits."
[...]
...“We’ve all laughed at it, watching it unfold,” but “it is very serious. This is precedent-setting. They are writing the playbook here.”
P - Republican county committees around the country are making requests to do forensic audits,...
[...]
The World Congress of Families, the international network of anti-LGBTQ and anti-choice activists who have allied themselves with right-wing nationalist and authoritarian leaders in Europe and Russia, will convene their 2019 global summit in Verona, Italy on March 29-31. U.S. Religious Right leaders scheduled to speak include anti-LGBTQ activist Jim Garlow, right-wing law professor John Eastman, and home schooling advocate Mike Donnelly.
P - The marriage of “traditional values” activism with the right-wing nationalist populism embraced by the Religious Right in both the U.S. and Europe is reflected in the appearance of another speaker. Steve Turley is an author and podcaster who argues that Trump’s “redemptive” presidency is one sign that “the political influence of the Religious Right is just beginning.”
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=166017136
Madeleine Albright: I'm warning the American public
Morning Joe
4/11/18
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright joins Morning Joe to discuss her new book 'Fascism: A Warning [ https://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Warning-Madeleine-Albright/dp/0062802186 ]' and what aspects of fascism she sees happening in the U.S. now.
.. warning: that is at the top of one of our late F6's huge posts ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=140944685
December 3, 2021 9:33AM ET
"It’s coming.
First things first.
The Truth, is undeniable, irrefutable."
It feels now or never. If Trump's Big Lie culminating in Jan. 6 is not
made a serious watershed moment i hate to think of what is needed.
Liz Cheney says “several weeks” of public hearings that will tell the story of the riot at the Capitol in “vivid color” are coming in 2022
By Ryan Bort
All links
Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) testifies during the House Rules Committee meeting on the "Resolution Recommending That The House Of Representatives Find Jeffrey Bossert Clark In Contempt Of Congress For Refusal To Comply With A Subpoena Duly Issued By The Select Committee To Investigate The Jan. 6 Attack On The United States Capitol," on Thursday, Dec. 2, 2021.
Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call/AP Images
The House Select Committee to Investigate the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol has been busy.
In the five months since the probe was launched, the committee has issued dozens of subpoenas to high-profile members of former President Trump’s circle, as well as a smattering of other MAGA-affiliated figures involved in the effort to overturn the results of the 2020 election. The process has been fraught for a number of reasons, but revelations that have emerged .. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/exclusive-jan-6-organizers-met-congress-white-house-1245289/ .. from Rolling Stone’s conversations with cooperating sources indicate the committee could be sitting on a mountain of material — material that could clarify what happened on Jan. 6, and who’s to blame for it.
Rep. Liz Cheney (R-Wyo.) has offered a sense of what to expect from the investigation as the calendar turns. In short, expect a lot.
Related Stories
Trump's Biggest Issue With Jan. 6 Is That Nobody Is Talking About His Rally's Crowd Size
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-complains-jan-6-rally-crowd-size-coverage-1265771/
'Trump Called Us to D.C.': Capitol Rioter Who Tased Cop Blames Trump for Jan. 6 Attack. So Does a Federal Judge
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/judge-trump-stoked-flames-fear-jan-6-1265485/
“We are making rapid progress,” the committee’s vice chair said at a House Rules Committee hearing on Thursday. “We anticipate next year, we will be conducting multiple weeks of public hearings, setting out for the American people in vivid color exactly what happened, every minute of the day on January 6th, here at the Capitol and at the White House, and what led to that violent attack.”
Cheney’s announcement signals a new phase of the investigation, in which the committee will push the machinations behind what happened on Jan. 6 into public view. The makeup of these forthcoming hearings is unclear, but the fact that they’re public and will last for “several weeks” should cement Jan. 6 as a key issue throughout the 2022 campaign season.
One figure of interest who seems open to testifying publicly is Bernard Kerik, the former New York City police commissioner and pal to Rudy Giuliani. Politico reported on Thursday that Kerik won’t provide documents unless he’s allowed to testify publicly. He’d previously said he’d comply with his subpoena but demanded the committee apologized to him for making “false statements.”
Alex Jones, the conspiracy theorist who reportedly helped plan the rally at the Ellipse, and Jeffrey Clark, a former Justice Department official whom the committee on Wednesday night recommended be charged with contempt for defying his subpoena, have also indicated they’d be open to testifying publicly. The committee probably won’t be interested, though. Public testimony makes it easier for witnesses to coordinate their stories, which would make it more difficult for the committee to piece together what actually happened on Jan. 6, rather than what a bunch of Trump allies want people to think happened.
Signaling a willingness to testify publicly makes it seem like a witness want to comply, but it doesn’t mean they aren’t effectively obeying Trump’s directive to stonewall the committee. Trump has done so himself through his likely doomed effort to prevent the committee from getting ahold of White House documents from the National Archives. Bannon did so extremely publicly in refusing to show up for his deposition and was subsequently charged with criminal contempt. Mark Meadows has agreed to cooperate, reaching an agreement with the committee this week .. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/30/us/politics/capitol-riot-investigation-meadows.html .. after first refusing to comply. It’s unclear to what extent Stephen Miller, Michael Flynn, Roger Stone, and other high-profile Trump allies will play ball, but it wouldn’t be surprising if many of them follow Trump and do what they can to stick it to the committee.
It’s easy to focus only on the big names and what they’re doing to make the committee’s work more difficult, but Cheney promising weeks of “vivid color” recounting of what happened is a reminder that the committee has been in touch with an untold number of other figures who were swirling around Trump’s efforts to overturn the election. Chairman Bennie Thompson (R-Miss.) said on Thursday that they’ve interviewed 250 people .. https://apnews.com/article/steve-bannon-donald-trump-elections-capitol-siege-36b68bd9e0c701fea8e6b11f00292604 , most of which have cooperated voluntarily. The committee seems confident they’ve already drawn enough to paint a clear picture of why, how, and at whose direction hundreds of Trump supporters were able to break into the Capitol in a violent attempt to overthrow American democracy. We’ll see next year.
Update: The post was updated to remove a suggestion that Bernie Kerik participated in a Jan. 5 meeting where Giuliani, Steve Bannon, John Eastman, and others discussed how to overturn the 2020 election results.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/liz-cheney-jan-6-committee-public-hearings-1265974/
See also:
White House metadata? No wonder Jeffrey Clark is pleading the fifth – and it’s all landing in Donald Trump’s lap
[...]
Jeffrey Clark is in legal trouble because he sent a letter to Georgia officials, demanding in bad faith that they overturn the election results, which constitutes election tampering. Tonight MSNBC is reporting that the January 6th Committee has discovered White House metadata on Clark’s letter, which means the letter electronically passed through the Trump White House at some point.
[...]
Right now the Jeffrey Clark situation is confusing and there appear to be more moving parts than we know about. That’s before even getting to Trump lawyer John Eastman’s decision to also plead the fifth to the January 6th Committee. But as these things tend to go, more details and context should emerge this weekend, and we’ll soon likely have a much clearer picture about what’s really going on here.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=167005395
How stupid is Trump - Interesting article
[...]
Over the next two months Giuliani repeatedly advanced Trump's claims of election fraud in public. On one occasion he did so with black hair dye running down the side of face.
[...]
It's bad enough for people like Giuliani, Lindell, Powell, and Wood to be circling the White House, seeking to exert influence on the president. It's far, far worse for the president to listen to what these morons say and think, "Yes, this is good advice." That shows an almost psychotic level of inanity.
P - Even worse, when the person sitting behind the Resolute Desk is that easily manipulated, he might also come under the influence of people who aren't morons but who want to advance their own agendas by preying on presidential witlessness. Think here of John Eastman, the conservative legal scholar who convinced Trump in the days leading up to Jan. 6 that Mike Pence could single-handedly act to keep Congress from certifying Joe Biden's electoral victory.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=166736375
January 6 committee issues 6 subpoenas to top Trump campaign associates, including Michael Flynn and John Eastman
[...]
The six subpoenas are going to:
* Trump 2020 campaign manager William Stepien
* Former senior adviser to the campaign Jason Miller
* John Eastman, an attorney who helped craft Trump's argument that the election was stolen
* Michael Flynn, who was involved in meeting about how the Trump campaign wanted to promote the lie that the election was stolen
* Angela McCallum, national executive assistant to former President Trump's 2020 reelection campaign
* Bernard Kerik, who participated in a meeting at the Willard Hotel centered around overturing election results.
P - All six individuals are being asked to supply the committee with documents on November 23, with depositions scheduled spanning the last week of November into mid December.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=166692074
Top post! "...and this, I promise you, was just a scrimmage. The real ball game still awaits."
[...]
...“We’ve all laughed at it, watching it unfold,” but “it is very serious. This is precedent-setting. They are writing the playbook here.”
P - Republican county committees around the country are making requests to do forensic audits,...
[...]
The World Congress of Families, the international network of anti-LGBTQ and anti-choice activists who have allied themselves with right-wing nationalist and authoritarian leaders in Europe and Russia, will convene their 2019 global summit in Verona, Italy on March 29-31. U.S. Religious Right leaders scheduled to speak include anti-LGBTQ activist Jim Garlow, right-wing law professor John Eastman, and home schooling advocate Mike Donnelly.
P - The marriage of “traditional values” activism with the right-wing nationalist populism embraced by the Religious Right in both the U.S. and Europe is reflected in the appearance of another speaker. Steve Turley is an author and podcaster who argues that Trump’s “redemptive” presidency is one sign that “the political influence of the Religious Right is just beginning.”
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=166017136
Madeleine Albright: I'm warning the American public
Morning Joe
4/11/18
Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright joins Morning Joe to discuss her new book 'Fascism: A Warning [ https://www.amazon.com/Fascism-Warning-Madeleine-Albright/dp/0062802186 ]' and what aspects of fascism she sees happening in the U.S. now.
.. warning: that is at the top of one of our late F6's huge posts ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=140944685
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