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Re: fuagf post# 383758

Monday, 09/06/2021 7:25:24 PM

Monday, September 06, 2021 7:25:24 PM

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dropdeadfred, More misleading crap from you. No doubt your efforts go to contributing to ignorance and death.

"The CDC Only Tracks a Fraction of Breakthrough COVID-19 Infections, Even as Cases Surge
"C.D.C. Internal Report Calls Delta Variant as Contagious as Chickenpox
"Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca vaccines and the 'impossibility' of COVID herd immunity as Delta changes the score""
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Just to have the information on this board too. This post was made in reply to ddf on the board most suited for his
covid-misinformation fetish, here .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=165791221 .


I've just here added a couple of embedded links and a couple of very slight changes. The info. isn't new, more to serve as reminder.

dropdeadfred, More misleading crap from you. No doubt your efforts go to contributing to ignorance and death.

To your "The JAMA study now proves that:
The jabs are worthless to inhibit the spread of Covid-19.
"

Fact check: Indiana doctor spreads false information about COVID-19 vaccines
Daniel Funke USA TODAY Aug. 17, 2021

The claim: COVID-19 vaccines don't slow the virus' spread

[...]

None of the coronavirus vaccines – or any vaccines, for that matter – are 100% effective. Breakthrough infections are possible.

Stock [Dr. Dan Stock, Indiana] raised this point when he questioned why vaccines that are "supposedly so effective" could allow a breakout during summer "when respiratory viral syndromes don't do that."

But that statement ignores the fact that, among common infectious diseases, only measles is more contagious .. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/07/29/covid-delta-variant-cdc-warning-mask-wearing-guidance/5424849001/ .. than the delta variant. Stock also asserted the vaccines themselves are the reason for the recent influx of COVID-19 cases and deaths (they're not) and that the findings of a CDC study suggest vaccines don't work.

That study found nearly three-quarters of people who tested positive for COVID-19 after Fourth of July celebrations in Provincetown, Massachusetts, had been fully vaccinated. The study doesn't support Stock's claims .. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/31/provincetown-covid-outbreak-shows-vaccines-working/5439120001/ , though, because the cluster occurred in the county with the state's highest vaccination rate, in an environment that was particularly conducive to the virus' spread. Most of the infections were mild.

"Bottom line? P-town outbreak would've been a nightmare if no one was vaccinated," Dr. Ashish K. Jha, dean of the Brown University School of Public Health, wrote in a July 30 tweet.

Breakthrough infections aren't evidence the vaccines are useless, as Stock claims. The CDC says the vaccines "reduce the risk of people spreading the virus that causes COVID-19."

"No vaccine needs to stop infection for it to have massive public health benefits or stop transmission," Katelyn Jetelina, an assistant professor who studies epidemiology at the University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston, wrote in an Aug. 10 Facebook post .. https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=346670520447927&id=100053149454347 .

If the vaccines had no effect on the spread of the coronavirus, it stands to reason that vaccinated people would make up a significant portion of COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations and deaths.. But that's not the case.

In mid-July, more than 97% of people who had been hospitalized for COVID-19 were unvaccinated, according to CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky. Nearly all deaths .. https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187 .. have been among unvaccinated Americans.

The same holds true for cases. A Kaiser Family Foundation analysis shows that, in every state that reports data on breakthrough infections, unvaccinated people make up more than 94% of COVID-19 cases.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/17/fact-check-dr-dan-stocks-covid-19-vaccine-claims-false/8111971002/

To this from yours

"Since we know that prior infection in fact confers sterilizing immunity the only rational act for health care providers dealing with high-risk patients who either cannot be vaccinated or show no sufficient immune response is to only allow convalescent, recovered health-care workers to care for them because they are the only sterile immune individuals. To do anything else, when there is a sizeable reservoir of said persons in the community (one in five, and almost-certainly much higher as medical personnel were exposed preferentially for the last 18 months) is voluntary manslaughter or even Murder 2. prior infection in fact confers sterilizing immunity"

That even more than much of the dangerously misinformative crap you post is bad bad bad. In fact YOU surely must have read before now that prior infection does NOT confer sterilizing immunity, and that vaccination produces stronger anti-bodies than catching the virus itself does.

Fact check: Infected with COVID-19 in the past? You still need the vaccine, experts say

Miriam Fauzia USA TODAY Aug. 13, 2021

[..]

"Antibodies elicited by infection do not neutralize the currently circulating coronavirus variants as efficiently as antibodies elicited by mRNA vaccination," Scott Hensley, an associate professor of microbiology at the University of Pennsylvania, previously told USA TODAY.

A June 30 study published in Science Translational Medicine found antibodies produced by those fully vaccinated with Moderna's mRNA vaccine were more broadly protective against different variants, compared to antibodies of recovered COVID-19 patients.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/08/13/fact-check-vaccine-has-benefits-even-those-past-covid-19-infections/5545009001/

So yours first states a falsity and then uses that incorrect assertion to suggest those who don't act according to it should be guilty of criminal negligence. That's ultra bad.

It's brings us back to Trump's initial criminal negligence

100% It's been dangerously reckless and irresponsible - and criminal - from the beginning.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=164939980

and the on-going criminal neglect of some of your GOP governors, De Santis and Abbott for two.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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