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Da Kine 17, Nope. Early on no one knew how bad it would be. Based on the evidence then what they said was perfectly understandable. Say you were taking a car trip and your daughter said, 'Daddy i'm worried about the car travel.' And you said, 'Don't worry dear, it's safe.' Then bang. You have a blowout, go off the road, and tumble... Would you say you lied or were unreasonable when you said it would be safe?

Your statements are typical of those of truth dissemblers. Some truth, but missing context and interpreted to fit your 'they are the liars, the ones who got it wrong' agenda.

You present a skeleton and pretend it's a body.

For one, that Trump China travel ban. You guys get a lot of wrongheaded mileage out of that one. See:

DrHarleyboy, Biden's "xenophobia" label of Trump was not directed at the China travel ban.

"Democrats downplayed corona virus while Trump took action"

The stench of your dishonesty has carried across oceans. You are seriously the worst kind of sycophantic slug.

Fact-check: Did Biden call Trump ‘xenophobic’ for China travel restrictions?

By Miriam Valverde, PolitiFact.com
Posted Mar 30, 2020 at 9:55 AM

This piece was originally published on PolitiFact.com on March 27, 2020.

Amid criticism of his administration’s response to the coronavirus pandemic, President Donald Trump routinely flags one action as efficient and bold: restricting travel from China into the United States.

Trump has said he instituted a travel ban against everyone’s wishes and that “nobody,” not even doctors, wanted him to restrict travel. But “probably tens of thousands” of people would be dead now if he hadn’t done so, he claimed on Fox News March 24.

At the same time, he’s claimed that former Vice President Joe Biden, a contender for the Democratic nomination for president, called him racist and xenophobic for restricting entry from China.

“I had Biden calling me xenophobic,” Trump said on Sean Hannity’s Fox News prime-time show March 26. “He called me a racist, because of the fact that he felt it was a racist thing to stop people from China coming in.”

Trump has said that about Biden at least three other times — on Twitter, at a White House briefing, and during the Fox News town hall.

But Biden has not directly said that the travel restriction was xenophobic. He has used that phrase in reference to Trump and his handling of the coronavirus outbreak. Biden’s campaign told PolitiFact that Biden’s tweets were not specific to the restrictions on people coming from China.

Biden’s use of the word “xenophobic”
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Sources

Email interview, White House press office, March 26, 2020

Email interview, Andrew Bates, Joe Biden campaign spokesman, March 26, 2020

Hannity.com, Interview with President Donald Trump, March 26, 2020

Rev.com, President Donald Trump’s Fox News town hall, March 24, 2020

Factba.se, President Donald Trump’s March 21, 2020 press briefing

Twitter, @realDonaldTrump tweet, March 18, 2020; tweet, March 23, 2020

Twitter, @JoeBiden tweet, Feb. 1, 2020; tweet, March 18, 2020

Twitter, @TrumpWarRoom tweet, March 12, 2020

WhiteHouse.gov, Proclamation on Suspension of Entry as Immigrants and Nonimmigrants of Persons who Pose a Risk of Transmitting 2019 Novel Coronavirus, Jan. 31, 2020; Remarks by President Trump in Address to the Nation, March 11, 2020

Rev.com, Joe Biden Speech Transcript on Coronavirus, March 12, 2020

PolitiFact, Donald Trump calls the coronavirus the ‘Chinese virus.’ Health experts say that’s wrong, March 19, 2020
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The White House press office said Trump’s claim is supported by a tweet Biden posted Feb. 1, the day after the Trump administration announced travel restrictions on people who were in China 14 days prior to their attempted entry into the United States.

Biden tweeted: “We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump’s record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency.”

But Biden did not explicitly tie xenophobia to the travel restriction. His tweet reflects coronavirus remarks he made during a campaign stop in Iowa Jan. 31, the day the travel restrictions were announced.

Biden said: “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria xenophobia, hysterical xenophobia, and fear-mongering to lead the way instead of science.”

Biden again used the word “xenophobic” in March — once at a press conference and once in response to a Trump tweet. In the first, Biden was criticizing Trump for labeling coronavirus a “foreign” virus. In the second, it’s not clear whether Biden’s use of the word was in direct reference to the travel restriction.

During a March 12 press conference Biden said, the United States should not be overly dismissive of the outbreak, “but neither should we panic or fall back on xenophobia, labeling COVID-19 a foreign virus does not displace accountability for the misjudgments that have been taken thus far by the Trump administration.”

Earlier that day, the Trump campaign tweeted that Democrats and news outlets were “accusing President Trump of racism and xenophobia” for his use of the phrase “Chinese virus.”

On March 18, Trump tweeted: “I always treated the Chinese Virus very seriously, and have done a very good job from the beginning, including my very early decision to close the ‘borders’ from China - against the wishes of almost all. Many lives were saved. The Fake News new narrative is disgraceful & false!”

Biden replied the same day: “Stop the xenophobic fear-mongering. Be honest. Take responsibility. Do your job.”

The tweet that Biden responded to included the phrase “Chinese virus,” which experts say could foster discrimination toward people of Chinese or Asian origin.

Andrew Bates, a Biden campaign spokesman, said Biden “has decried Trump’s xenophobia for years, and was saying that it shouldn’t influence the U.S. approach to this outbreak. This was not in reference to coronavirus travel restrictions.”

Travel restrictions that are supported by science, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy can be warranted, Bates said.

Our ruling

Speaking of his restriction on travel from China, Trump said, “I had Biden calling me xenophobic. ... . He called me a racist, because of the fact that he felt it was a racist thing to stop people from China coming in.”

Biden has not directly said that the restrictions were xenophobic. Around the time the Trump administration announced the travel restriction, Biden said that Trump had a “record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering.” Biden used the phrase “xenophobic” in reply to a Trump tweet about limiting entry to travelers from China and in which he described the coronavirus as the “Chinese virus.” Biden did not spell out which part of Trump’s tweet was xenophobic.

Trump’s statement contains an element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. We rate it Mostly False.

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200330/fact-check-did-biden-call-trump-lsquoxenophobicrsquo-for-china-travel-restrictions

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AP FACT CHECK: Trump’s inaccurate boasts on China travel ban

By HOPE YENMarch 27, 2020

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President Donald Trump speaks about the coronavirus in the James Brady Briefing Room, Wednesday, March 25, 2020, in Washington. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon)

WASHINGTON (AP) — Defending early missteps in the U.S. response to the coronavirus, President Donald Trump has repeatedly boasted of travel restrictions on China that he suggests he decided on his own over the objections of health experts and saved “thousands” of lives.

His claims aren’t substantiated.

TRUMP: “We’re the ones that gave the great response, and we’re the ones that kept China out of here. ... If I didn’t do that early call on China — and nobody wanted that to happen. Everybody thought it was just unnecessary to do it.” — news briefing Wednesday.

TRUMP: “Everybody was against it. Almost everybody, I would say, was just absolutely against it. ... I made a decision to close off to China that was weeks early. ... And I must say, doctors — nobody wanted to make that decision at the time.” — Fox News virtual town hall Tuesday.

TRUMP: “I’ll tell you how prepared I was, I called for a ban.” — news briefing on March 19.

THE FACTS: His decision was far from solo nor was it made over opposition from health experts, as the White House coronavirus task force makes clear. His decision followed a consensus by his public health advisers that the restrictions should take place.

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, who was coordinator of the task force at the time and announced the travel restrictions, said Trump made the decision in late January after accepting the “uniform recommendation of the career public health officials here at HHS.”

While the World Health Organization did advise against the overuse of travel restrictions, Azar told reporters in February that his department’s career health officials had made a “considered recommendation, which I and the president adopted” in a bid to slow spread of the virus.

Most major airlines had already suspended flights .. https://apnews.com/7a165f73821fdd44e321a38be005886c .. to China prior to the announcement on Jan. 31, following the lead of several major international carriers that had stopped due to the coronavirus outbreak. Delta, American and United cited a sharp drop in demand for the flights, and an earlier State Department advisory told Americans not to travel to China because of the outbreak.
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TRUMP: “And if we didn’t do that, thousands and thousands of people would have died.” — news briefing Wednesday.

THE FACTS: The impact hasn’t been quantified. While Dr. Anthony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health has praised the travel restrictions on China for slowing the virus, it’s not known how big an impact they had or if “thousands and thousands” of lives were saved.

There were plenty of gaps in containment.

Trump’s order did not fully “close” the U.S. off to China, as he asserts. It temporarily barred entry by foreign nationals who had traveled in China within the previous 14 days, with exceptions for the immediate family of U.S. citizens and permanent residents. Americans returning from China were allowed back after enhanced screening at select ports of entry and for 14 days afterward. But U.S. scientists say screenings can miss people who don’t yet show symptoms of COVID-19; while symptoms often appear within five or six days of exposure, the incubation period is 14 days.

A recent study from the journal Science found China’s internal crackdown modestly delayed the spread of the virus. It cast doubt that travel restrictions elsewhere will do much compared with other preventive measures, citing in part the likelihood that a large number of people exposed to the virus had already been traveling internationally without being detected.

For weeks after the first U.S. case of the coronavirus was confirmed in January, government missteps caused a shortage of reliable laboratory tests for the coronavirus, leading to delays in diagnoses.

About one-third of Americans are now under government orders to stay at home to help stop the spread of the virus. On Thursday, the U.S. saw its death toll pass 1,200 and for the first time had the most confirmed cases of any country, with over 82,000 across all 50 states and the District of Columbia.
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Associated Press writers Lauran Neergaard and Calvin Woodward contributed to this report.

https://apnews.com/article/0dc271ad7f7917374a5a0cfb49273783

AND of course never forget Trump's lowering the drawbridge, and his dismantling of the outer castle protective walls:

How Trump let coronavirus take over America
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2017-2020: Withdrew CDC staff from China
Between 2017 and 2020, the Trump administration reduced the number of CDC staff in China — the presumed epicenter of the outbreak — from 47 to just 14, Reuters reported on March 25.
P - "We had a large operation of experts in China who were brought back during this administration, some of them months before the outbreak," a person who witnessed the withdrawal of U.S. personnel said. "You have to consider the possibility that our drawdown made this catastrophe more likely or more difficult to respond to."
2018: Ignored warnings from CDC
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Trump's "drain the swamp" means 'drain the expertise'. Excerpt from yours ..
"In May 2018, Trump ordered the NSC’s entire global health security unit shut down, calling for reassignment of Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer and dissolution of his team inside the agency. The month before, then-White House National Security Advisor John Bolton pressured Ziemer’s DHS counterpart, Tom Bossert, to resign along with his team. Neither the NSC nor DHS epidemic teams have been replaced. The global health section of the CDC was so drastically cut in 2018 that much of its staff was laid off and the number of countries it was working in was reduced from 49 to merely 10. Meanwhile, throughout 2018, the U.S. Agency for International Development and its director, Mark Green, came repeatedly under fire from both the White House and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo. And though Congress has so far managed to block Trump administration plans to cut the U.S. Public Health Service Commissioned Corps by 40 percent, the disease-fighting cadres have steadily eroded as retiring officers go unreplaced...."
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You got it all again - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=163893058

You put forward a skeleton

"You and Fauci are parsing words as Rand Paul said. Fauci funded the Wuhan Lab, that FACT is not disputed by anyone. Fauci makes the claim that the funding of “gain of function” was not specifically authorized in the funding. The research being conducted at Wuhan had been banned in the US because of safety concerns.
January 14th the WHO claimed that the covid virus could NOT be spread person to person.
January 21st Fauci stated that we should not be concerned about it.
January 30 Trump Bans travel from China against the WHO’s and Fauci’s comments out of an abundance of caution.
The Dems, including Biden criticized Trumps decision and encouraged ppl to disregard the Travel ban.
The WHO and Fauci both have culpability in the occurrence and have a conflict of interest in the investigation at this point."

and pose it as a body.