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Thursday, 05/13/2021 12:58:49 PM

Thursday, May 13, 2021 12:58:49 PM

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Don't play God buddy. You don't know the long term effects.

Oh my the admonishment! I'm not your buddy.

You know that the mRNA is forced inside the cells, thousands of cells, that mRNA has to penetrate.



It's not forced. The cell sees a nano-lipid and transports the nano-lipid with the encased mRNA into the cell. It's a simple concept called "Active Transport". And one would hope that every last one of the thousands of nano-lipid encased mRNA particle do penetrate into cells. Where they can start pumping out spike proteins. The more the merrier.

Some of that mRNA may not completely be encapsulated by the cell, thereby having extracellular mRNA in your body



Again, the mRNA is encapsulated by a nano-lipid encasement. In the case where the nano-particle breaks apart before it has a chance to be transported into the cell, the following would occur:

1. The nano-lipids would themselves be transported into cells, and/or degraded via the liver.

2. The mRNA is rapidly degraded by RNases in the blood stream. The concept of using mRNA is not new. Early attempts to use it failed, because there was no way to protect it from being degraded. Thus, encapsulation was the solution to getting it to its target cell.

Such a situation, which is quite reasonable, causes one's innate immune system to start attacking those foreign or out of place mRNA



No, this anti-VAX rhetoric that leaky mRNA stays around forever, and causes autoimmune reactions is nonsense. The RNases will degrade any mRNA they come into contact with. Doesn't matter if it was the mRNA from a vaccine, or naturally occurs mRNA in a cell that just died, and leaked its contents. Again, the degradation of the mRNA occurs rapidly.

causing edema, blood clots, and whatever else.



No such effects have been reported for the mRNA vaccines.

That's only ONE, situation.


That's a ZERO situation because it does not occur with the mRNA vaccines.

Nobody knows additional long term effects from a vaccine as it has not been trialed in traditional lengthy timeframe.



Again, do explain what component of a mRNA could possibly cause a long term effect, and why? Include a link to a scientific paper published. No, a conspiracy anti-VAX website of someone's opinion doesn't count.

The Pfizer clinical trial started 01-Apr-2020. It's now over 1 yr in length. In early Jan 2021 as the Med community started to be vaccinated, daily new Covid cases in the US were 261K. They are now at 30K/day. New cases will continue to go down. That's all due to vaccines. Without the vaccines new cases, and deaths would still be going up courtesy of the B.1.1.7 variant.

If you can't admit that you don't know the long term effects of this vaccine



There are none to know. There is no basis to even suspect long term effects.

then stop posting to me since you're going in circles to try and prove your smart w/o answering the question.



Contrary I have answered all of your questions, and in the process refuted all of the anti-VAX nonsense. YOU are the one deflecting, and running in circles.

You should admit relying on, and consulting anti-VAX conspiracy sites isn't science. It's speculation.

Will get back to you on the success of Ivermectin and its success in early treatment.



Too bad there's no success.

If it wasn't so successful, my own doctor would not be prescribing hydroxy and ivermectin. She's has a 99% success rate with only 1 hospitalization. Her patients include various ages, including v. old age. She also has clients in multiple nursing homes that have rec'd the treatment.



So the Dr says. What's the total population size? How many of the nursing homes have recorded any infections? How many total confirmed infections? What's the age demographics? Dare I ask the obvious: How many have been vaccinated?

Hopefully this Dr doesn't get carried away prescribing off label. Wouldn't want the State medical board to come after her.


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