I believe you would say after drinking the kool-aid provided by Jim Jones or David Karesh show me the poison, provide me proof that it was poisoned. You claim to be a wise believer, yet you continue to see things though those filtered glasses you wear. Two proverbs come to mind; Chapter 1:22 Chapter 3:21-26 How's your discernment looking? It would appear that it left long ago! I feel bad for anyone who followed you into this nightmare. Under the impression that it was safe because you claim to be a believer.