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Re: fuagf post# 352840

Sunday, 09/27/2020 4:38:40 PM

Sunday, September 27, 2020 4:38:40 PM

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Common conservative right-wing propaganda. Dishonest. Misleading. Meant to reinforce wrong
-headed opinion in the susceptible conservative. Meant to hook any other of the uninformed.

"The Electoral College Will Destroy America"

One example of the above which arrived in my Mailbox today.

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Some Facts, The following will take only about 39 second to read and clear up years of misunderstanding.

319 Square Miles

The following will take only about 39 second to read and clear up years of misunderstanding.

In their infinite wisdom, the United States' Founders created the Electoral College to ensure the STATES were fairly represented. Why should one or two densely populated areas speak for the whole of the nation?

The following list of statistics has been making the rounds on the Internet. It should finally put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense.

Do share this. It needs to be widely known and understood.

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.

Trump won 3,084 of them.

Clinton won 57.

There are 62 counties in New York State.

Trump won 46 of them.

Clinton won 16.

Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes.

In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)

Therefore, these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.

These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.

The United States is comprised of 3,797,000 square miles.

When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be unfair that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.

Large, densely populated cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc.) DO NOT and SHOULD NOT speak for the rest of our country!

And...it's been verified and documented that those aforementioned 319 square miles are where the majority of our nation's problems foment.

Help others understand the purpose of the Electoral College by sharing this.
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My reply, in essence, here:

Seriously, a fact check is so simple. Before getting there i knew the figure in yours of Hillary winning the popular vote was more than "Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes " that. By memory it was closer to 2.7 million. Oops

Hillary Clinton Officially Wins Popular Vote by Nearly 2.9 Million
Hillary Clinton has officially won the popular vote.

By ALANA ABRAMSON 23 December 2016, 08:35
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-officially-wins-popular-vote-29-million/story?id=44354341

So just on your 1.5 million the all of yours became highly suspect. Before checking anywhere else.

This fact check unarguably PROVES yours is the worst of dishonest propaganda meant to misinform and mislead.

Fact Check: Stats are twisted on counties won by Trump

By Carole Fader
Posted Jan 10, 2017 at 6:54 PM

A list of statistics making the rounds on the internet purports that the numbers should put an end to the argument as to why the Electoral College makes sense.

The facts: The email reads: “There are 3,141 counties in the United States. Trump won 3,084 of them. Clinton won 57.

“There are 62 counties in New York State. Trump won 46 of them. Clinton won 16.

“In the five counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond [Staten Island] and Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won four of these counties; Trump won Richmond).”

FactCheck.org reports that the email numbers might have come from a Nov. 15 Breitbart News article by Michael Patrick Leahy. But the email twists the information.

Leahy wrote that “Donald Trump won an overwhelming 7.5 million popular vote victory in 3,084 of the country’s 3,141 counties or county equivalents in America’s heartland.”

FactCheck.org notes that Leahy isn’t saying that Trump won all 3,084 counties outright — just that in those 3,084 counties, Trump won the popular vote by a large margin.

Leahy also wrote that “Hillary Clinton, in contrast, had an 8.2 million-vote margin in a narrow band of 52 coastal counties and five ‘county equivalent’ cities on the west and east coasts.”

FactCheck.org found it easy to disprove the email’s claim that Trump won all of the 3,084 counties that Leahy looked at in his “heartland” exercise and that Clinton won only 57 overall.

The fact-checker looked at Texas and Georgia — two states that Clinton lost.

Clinton won 27 counties in Texas, which has 38 electoral votes. In Georgia, which has 16 electoral votes, Clinton won 31 counties. That’s 58 counties without including any counties that Clinton won in any of the other states.

The Associated Press also debunked the claim that Clinton only won 57 counties across the country in an article published Dec. 6: “The Associated Press finds that Clinton won 487 counties nationwide, compared with 2,626 for President-elect Donald Trump.”

The AP’s totals for Clinton and Trump are very close to what PolitiFact.com reported, according to FactCheck.org. PolitiFact.com found that Clinton and Trump won 489 and 2,623 counties, respectively, based on preliminary county results from David Leip’s “Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections.”

As for that claim about New York, the numbers are largely correct. There are 62 counties in the state, and Trump won 46 of them and Clinton won 16. The difference in population size can be dramatic.

Census data show that Kings County, N.Y., which is in Brooklyn (and which Clinton won), has a population of 2.6 million people while Petroleum County, Montana (which Trump won) has 475.

Clinton won the national popular vote by 2,864,974 votes as of Jan. 3, according to the latest tally from David Wasserman of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report.
https://www.jacksonville.com/reason/2017-01-10/fact-check-stats-are-twisted-counties-won-trump



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