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Re: conix post# 353474

Saturday, 09/19/2020 10:37:13 PM

Saturday, September 19, 2020 10:37:13 PM

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conix, Read what i just gave you ..

Most Americans still learn very little about the lives of the enslaved, or how the struggle over slavery shaped a young nation. Last year, the Southern Poverty Law Center .. https://www.splcenter.org/20180131/teaching-hard-history .. found that few American high-school students know that slavery was the cause of the Civil War, that the Constitution protected slavery without explicitly mentioning it, or that ending slavery required a constitutional amendment. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=158408554 .

"To suggest that I hate black people because I want real history taught
in schools and not the 1619 Project BS is such a bigoted response.
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One problem is real history is not getting through to too many school children, but rather more of a warped white view. If you don't see that as a problem you give weight to hookrider's opinion you are a bigot. Either that or you are projecting when you accuse him of stupidity.

hookrider is entitled to see you as a bigot. It's his opinion based on your posts. And it's not only him who holds that view of you. That's your problem and you sure as hell aren't doing yourself any favors by posting the way you continue to post.

Your "hook--you are too stupid to take seriously." is more just a personal attack which arguably should be deleted.

Digest the content of the one i gave you three months ago. More bits: conix, The Fight Over the 1619 Project Is Not About the Facts

[...]

Historians who are in neither Wilentz’s camp nor the 1619 Project’s say both have a point. “I do not agree that the American Revolution was just a slaveholders' rebellion,” Manisha Sinha, a history professor at the University of Connecticut and the author of The Slave's Cause: A History of Abolition, told me.* “But also understand that the original Constitution did give some ironclad protections to slavery without mentioning it.”

[...]

Wilentz reached out to a larger group of historians, but ultimately sent a letter signed by five historians who had publicly criticized the 1619 Project in interviews with the World Socialist Web Site. He told me that the idea of trying to rally a larger group was “misconceived,” citing the holiday season and the end of the semester, among other factors. (A different letter written by Wilentz, calling for the impeachment of President Donald Trump, quickly amassed hundreds of signatures last week.) The refusal of other historians to sign on, despite their misgivings about some claims made by the 1619 Project, speaks to a divide over whether the letter was focused on correcting specific factual inaccuracies or aimed at discrediting the project more broadly.

Sinha saw an early version of the letter that was circulated among a larger group of historians. But, despite her disagreement with some of the assertions in the 1619 Project, she said she wouldn’t have signed it if she had been asked to. “There are legitimate critiques that one can engage in discussion with, but for them to just kind of dismiss the entire project in that manner, I thought, was really unwise,” she said. “It was a worthy thing to actually shine a light on a subject that the average person on the street doesn't know much about.”

Although the letter writers deny that their objections are merely matters of “interpretation or ‘framing,’” the question of whether black Americans have fought their freedom struggles “largely alone,” as Hannah-Jones put it in her essay, is subject to vigorous debate. Viewed through the lens of major historical events—from anti-slavery Quakers organizing boycotts of goods produced through slave labor, to abolitionists springing fugitive slaves from prison, to union workers massing at the March on Washington—the struggle for black freedom has been an interracial struggle. Frederick Douglass had William Garrison; W. E. B. Du Bois had Moorfield Storey .. http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/naacp/founding-and-early-years.html#obj11 ; Martin Luther King Jr. had Stanley Levison .. https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/encyclopedia/levison-stanley-david .

“The fight for black freedom is a universal fight; it's a fight for everyone. In the end, it affected the fight for women's rights—everything. That's the glory of it,” Wilentz told me. “To minimize that in any way is, I think, bad for understanding the radical tradition in America.”

But looking back to the long stretches of night before the light of dawn broke—the centuries of slavery and the century of Jim Crow that followed—“largely alone” seems more than defensible. Douglass had Garrison, but the onetime Maryland slave had to go north to find him. The millions who continued to labor in bondage until 1865 struggled, survived, and resisted far from the welcoming arms of northern abolitionists.

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You have obviously spent so little time, if any, on that article you have little idea of the larger issues around the debate on the 1619 Project. Do yourself a favor. Digest it. As well as you can.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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