Am guessing more than one conversation involved opinion and comment as
"Talking about changes of policing has been pushed with words such as 'reorganization' and 'reform' for years, with little real
positive effect so lets use one like 'defunding.' That will GRAB people's attention and generate more serious discussion."
Maybe, eh, waddaya reckon. Put yourself in those activists' shoes.
It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”