it seems obvious now that everyone has realized (including me, although it's been about 6-8 months) that this was a scam from the very beginning. Tim and Chris are the epitome of evil, siphoning money from people trusting what they were saying. Yes, the goal for everyone was to make money, but not at the direct cost of other people or by deception.
They need to go to jail for this level of fraud. Awful. They've definitely inspired me to never trust companies ever again.