Only if Judge Atlas actually finds in favor of the plaintiffs. Sure, this seems like a slam dunk, but wasn't the Perry appeal considered to also be a slam dunk?
Yes I was surprised he didn’t rule and hided it thoughts, I thought he would have wanted to help the government and solve things, as judges per design are there to solve matters, it was a surprise to everybody that the system still has flaws, but hey people are not machines
No. Relief would come in the form of cancelling the seniors, unwinding the NWS, etc. No money would be paid to even the plaintiffs, let alone all shareholders.
The 3th is ruled illegal, sending money in perpetually to treasury is outside their statue so yes the liquidation preference will be paid down with the money the government received from the illegal 3th amendment, and by that the shareholders are compensated in market value, as still a lot remains unsolved there is a lot to gain in the oncoming months
You are throwing numbers out without any form of support for them.
My support without numbers would be that FnF are now trading for a few dollars, but since the end is in sight as early as Q4 of 2020, and the government wants to get them out of conservatorship, we need to go from a couple of dollars to the final share price, within the next 12 months
You are using the term "unconstitutional" incorrectly. The en banc panel majority judged that the NWS exceeded FHFA's authority under HERA. That had nothing at all to do with the Constitution.
o.k. I will call it illegal
Once again absolutely false. All dismissed cases remain dismissed. If the Collins case gets appealed to SCOTUS and cert is granted, maybe we could see a whole legal mess happen. This can, and in my opinion will be, avoided by just settling the Collins case, along with all the others. I believe that all the plaintiffs in previously-dismissed cases, though, will be left out in the cold in terms of settlement awards.
Your guess is as good as mine, just depending on the remedy Collins case will give, if it is insufficient, the plaintiffs from the closed cases will come back to the court
Which court, and which case? And which shares' liquidation preference are you referring to?
Collins 5th circuit “return net-worth-sweep dividends (or treat them as paying down the liquidation preference”
This only needs to be done if someone actually challenges the conservatorship itself in a way to have it overturned. This has not happened, so if you want a court to do this you will have to file your own lawsuit to that effect.
Be patient this will eventually come, just wait and see, first we need to see the 11.000 documents, if all is legal as the government suggest we soon will see how legal it is, and all lawsuit will disappear, just as MC told several times now
To have standing, though, you would have to have owned shares on the date of conservatorship. So if you did, go file that lawsuit. If you didn't, you really need to stop talking about challenging the conservatorship because nothing you say will help.
I have standing but will not file a lawsuit for now, for reasons mentioned in earlier posts, and will not stop challenging the conservatorship itself, as it is plain and simple not proven the government is entitled to 79.9% of the company, likewise the whole world thought the 3th amendment was legal, it plain a simple is not, as proven by the court just recently, if however they do proof to be right I’ll I take my loss, but until then..
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