thx gem! I am still........ .. sick as a dog. did stuff around the house and yard with the hubby yesterday, but I overdid and paying the price. I need to rest more. I wont be able to post on this board after tonight, my membership runs out about 4am tomorrow. roach's board is on a paid only status. not his fault, admin did that a while back to either force me to pay or not get to post. long story. nice to hear from you. how the heck are ya?