That's right, it wouldn't work with either of them. Everything we've posted here on N Korea and Iran has taken that position.
I was happy to see Dowd's thoughts there as, from my perspective, on reading them she was pretty well saying what i'd been thinking.
If there is something in particular i've posted which suggested i hadn't followed the thread i'd appreciate knowing what it was.
It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”