Lem are you right or left-handed... go this link and ping away.... <A HREF="http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation" target="_blank">http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation</A> That is a locator tool a little better than just a plain PING that gives you a time return...how long it took the packet to be sent...yes or no and if yes how long...i like the locator myself...BVdog