airedale88 In no way do I feel Hurst is B/S! However two different individuals can look at the same data and draw two different conclusions. In Aug of this year I spent a week in Granite Bay California regretfully I didn’t realize it until late Sep that I was less than 10 miles from where Mr. Hurst lived. Since 1978 I have made 6 different trips out there most recently in 2000 and again in 2004 before he died. chris