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conix, Saudi Arabia and the 9/11 Terrorist Attacks
"Iran Admits To Facilitating 9/11 Terror Attacks"
By Eugene Kiely
Posted on February 6, 2015
Zacarias Moussaoui, a convicted 9/11 co-conspirator, says members of Saudi Arabia’s royal family helped finance al Qaeda in the years just prior to the 2001 terrorist attacks. The Saudi government says that “there is no evidence to support Moussaoui’s claim,” citing U.S. government investigations. Who’s right?
We can’t say for sure, in part because a 2002 joint House-Senate report contains a 28-page section on al Qaeda’s “specific sources of foreign support” that remains classified. However, the bipartisan 9/11 Commission — which investigated the leads produced by the earlier congressional report — said in its 2004 report that it “found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization,” referring to al Qaeda.
Moussaoui was sentenced to life in prison in 2006 for his role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, including the passengers and crew of a hijacked plane that crashed in Pennsylvania. The New York Times reported on Feb. 3 that Moussaoui gave a deposition in a lawsuit filed against the Saudi Arabian government by relatives of the 9/11 victims.
In his deposition, Moussaoui identified “prominent members of Saudi Arabia’s royal family as major donors” to al Qaeda in the late 1990s, according to the Times.
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Feb. 3, New York Times: He said in the prison deposition that he was directed in 1998 or 1999 by Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan to create a digital database of donors to the group. Among those he said he recalled listing in the database were Prince Turki al-Faisal, then the Saudi intelligence chief; Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, the longtime Saudi ambassador to the United States; Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, a prominent billionaire investor; and many of the country’s leading clerics.
“Sheikh Osama wanted to keep a record who give money,” he said in imperfect English — “who is to be listened to or who contributed to the jihad.”
Mr. Moussaoui said he acted as a courier for Bin Laden, carrying personal messages to prominent Saudi princes and clerics. And he described his training in Qaeda camps in Afghanistan.
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The Saudi government released a statement denying Moussaoui’s claims and pointing to investigations that found no evidence for his accusations.
[...]
The staff report does not mention by name any of the three princes singled out by Moussaoui, but it does clear Saudi Princess Haifa al Faisal of any wrongdoing. “Despite persistent public speculation, there is no evidence … Saudi Princess Haifa al Faisal provided any funds to the hijackers either directly or indirectly,” the report said.
With links - https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/saudi-arabia-and-the-911-terrorist-attacks/
So there you go. How much have you read of investigation into Iran's involvement in 9/11 since that terrible day? Google it. You don't get much. Yeah, and mainstream media is still the most fiction free in the U.S.A. Even if the remarks by Mohammad-Javad Larijani, as translated, are true, on the best evidence so far, involvement via Saudi Arabia in the 9/11 attacks via Saudi's was much greater than support for them via Iranians. And you must know Trump is great friends with Saudi Arabians. Let's see you get stuck into that.
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Saudi Arabia: The White House Loves It. Most Americans? Not So Much
March 19, 20185:03 PM ET
https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/19/595018861/trump-may-love-saudi-arabia-but-many-americans-do-not
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Argument
Donald Trump Has Unleashed the Saudi Arabia We Always Wanted — and Feared
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has put the Middle East on a collision course. And the White House will own the consequences.
By Aaron David Miller, Richard Sokolsky | November 10, 2017, 2:20 PM
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/11/10/donald-trump-has-unleashed-the-saudi-arabia-we-always-wanted-and-feared/
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Editorial
Saudi Arabia’s Special Power Over Donald Trump
By The Editorial Board
Nov. 10, 2017
President Trump with King Salman of Saudi Arabia, right, in Riyadh in May.CreditStephen Crowley/The New York Times
Consider this foreign policy challenge: A Mideast leader undertakes a stunning power play to cement domestic control, carrying out mass arrests without due process and installing loyalists in key ministries. He ratchets up criticism of a regional rival and accuses it of effectively declaring war. And another Mideast leader, while on a visit to the first one’s country, abruptly resigns and doesn’t return home.
If all this were happening in Iran, it’s a fair guess that President Trump, Congress and a host of other voices would react with outrage. In truth, the scenario sums up what’s been happening in Saudi Arabia in the last week under Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. And Mr. Trump could not have been more effusive. “I have great confidence in King Salman and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, they know exactly what they are doing,” he tweeted.
There’s a big difference, of course, between Saudi Arabia and Iran; the former is an American ally, the latter an antagonist. But it has not been American practice to give allies a free pass when they’re destabilizing the region, and Saudi policies, both domestic and foreign, have become increasingly aggressive under Crown Prince Mohammed. In addition to his power play, he’s escalated Saudi involvement in Yemen; continued his boycott of Qatar, ostensibly another American ally; and made inflammatory statements about Iran. Saad Hariri, the Lebanese prime minister, resigned a week ago while in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, in circumstances that remain a mystery.
No problem, suggests Mr. Trump, who made clear early on that he would side with the kingdom and its Sunni allies against Shiite-led Iran. But there is a problem: Mr. Trump’s uncritical support of the prince’s behavior is stirring fears of a war with Iran and undermining American interests.
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson knows this, even if his boss doesn’t. On Friday Mr. Tillerson reaffirmed Lebanon’s independence, hailed Mr. Hariri and cautioned against using Lebanon for proxy conflicts. His words were a stern, if indirect, admonishment to Saudi Arabia. And to his boss in the Oval Office. Though why should a headstrong Saudi prince pay any attention to an American underling who has been repeatedly undermined by that same boss? With links - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/opinion/saudi-arabia-donald-trump.html
See also:
Jared Kushner 'tried and failed to get a $500m loan from Qatar before pushing Trump to take hard line against country'
.. the second one in post headed ..
Qatar, Kushner and Cohen: The Latest Scandal Rocking the Trump White House
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=140890368
conix, You could probably find some wealthy, and/or intelligence individual in Qatar who in some way aided the 9/11 hijackers.
Course, you as a Trump enabler are more interested in demonizing Iran than Saudi Arabia, or other ME countries. Why is that?
"Iran Admits To Facilitating 9/11 Terror Attacks"
By Eugene Kiely
Posted on February 6, 2015
Zacarias Moussaoui, a convicted 9/11 co-conspirator, says members of Saudi Arabia’s royal family helped finance al Qaeda in the years just prior to the 2001 terrorist attacks. The Saudi government says that “there is no evidence to support Moussaoui’s claim,” citing U.S. government investigations. Who’s right?
We can’t say for sure, in part because a 2002 joint House-Senate report contains a 28-page section on al Qaeda’s “specific sources of foreign support” that remains classified. However, the bipartisan 9/11 Commission — which investigated the leads produced by the earlier congressional report — said in its 2004 report that it “found no evidence that the Saudi government as an institution or senior Saudi officials individually funded the organization,” referring to al Qaeda.
Moussaoui was sentenced to life in prison in 2006 for his role in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, including the passengers and crew of a hijacked plane that crashed in Pennsylvania. The New York Times reported on Feb. 3 that Moussaoui gave a deposition in a lawsuit filed against the Saudi Arabian government by relatives of the 9/11 victims.
In his deposition, Moussaoui identified “prominent members of Saudi Arabia’s royal family as major donors” to al Qaeda in the late 1990s, according to the Times.
-
Feb. 3, New York Times: He said in the prison deposition that he was directed in 1998 or 1999 by Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan to create a digital database of donors to the group. Among those he said he recalled listing in the database were Prince Turki al-Faisal, then the Saudi intelligence chief; Prince Bandar Bin Sultan, the longtime Saudi ambassador to the United States; Prince al-Waleed bin Talal, a prominent billionaire investor; and many of the country’s leading clerics.
“Sheikh Osama wanted to keep a record who give money,” he said in imperfect English — “who is to be listened to or who contributed to the jihad.”
Mr. Moussaoui said he acted as a courier for Bin Laden, carrying personal messages to prominent Saudi princes and clerics. And he described his training in Qaeda camps in Afghanistan.
-
The Saudi government released a statement denying Moussaoui’s claims and pointing to investigations that found no evidence for his accusations.
[...]
The staff report does not mention by name any of the three princes singled out by Moussaoui, but it does clear Saudi Princess Haifa al Faisal of any wrongdoing. “Despite persistent public speculation, there is no evidence … Saudi Princess Haifa al Faisal provided any funds to the hijackers either directly or indirectly,” the report said.
With links - https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/saudi-arabia-and-the-911-terrorist-attacks/
So there you go. How much have you read of investigation into Iran's involvement in 9/11 since that terrible day? Google it. You don't get much. Yeah, and mainstream media is still the most fiction free in the U.S.A. Even if the remarks by Mohammad-Javad Larijani, as translated, are true, on the best evidence so far, involvement via Saudi Arabia in the 9/11 attacks via Saudi's was much greater than support for them via Iranians. And you must know Trump is great friends with Saudi Arabians. Let's see you get stuck into that.
-
Saudi Arabia: The White House Loves It. Most Americans? Not So Much
March 19, 20185:03 PM ET
https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/03/19/595018861/trump-may-love-saudi-arabia-but-many-americans-do-not
-
Argument
Donald Trump Has Unleashed the Saudi Arabia We Always Wanted — and Feared
Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman has put the Middle East on a collision course. And the White House will own the consequences.
By Aaron David Miller, Richard Sokolsky | November 10, 2017, 2:20 PM
http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/11/10/donald-trump-has-unleashed-the-saudi-arabia-we-always-wanted-and-feared/
-
Editorial
Saudi Arabia’s Special Power Over Donald Trump
By The Editorial Board
Nov. 10, 2017
President Trump with King Salman of Saudi Arabia, right, in Riyadh in May.CreditStephen Crowley/The New York Times
Consider this foreign policy challenge: A Mideast leader undertakes a stunning power play to cement domestic control, carrying out mass arrests without due process and installing loyalists in key ministries. He ratchets up criticism of a regional rival and accuses it of effectively declaring war. And another Mideast leader, while on a visit to the first one’s country, abruptly resigns and doesn’t return home.
If all this were happening in Iran, it’s a fair guess that President Trump, Congress and a host of other voices would react with outrage. In truth, the scenario sums up what’s been happening in Saudi Arabia in the last week under Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. And Mr. Trump could not have been more effusive. “I have great confidence in King Salman and the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, they know exactly what they are doing,” he tweeted.
There’s a big difference, of course, between Saudi Arabia and Iran; the former is an American ally, the latter an antagonist. But it has not been American practice to give allies a free pass when they’re destabilizing the region, and Saudi policies, both domestic and foreign, have become increasingly aggressive under Crown Prince Mohammed. In addition to his power play, he’s escalated Saudi involvement in Yemen; continued his boycott of Qatar, ostensibly another American ally; and made inflammatory statements about Iran. Saad Hariri, the Lebanese prime minister, resigned a week ago while in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, in circumstances that remain a mystery.
No problem, suggests Mr. Trump, who made clear early on that he would side with the kingdom and its Sunni allies against Shiite-led Iran. But there is a problem: Mr. Trump’s uncritical support of the prince’s behavior is stirring fears of a war with Iran and undermining American interests.
Secretary of State Rex Tillerson knows this, even if his boss doesn’t. On Friday Mr. Tillerson reaffirmed Lebanon’s independence, hailed Mr. Hariri and cautioned against using Lebanon for proxy conflicts. His words were a stern, if indirect, admonishment to Saudi Arabia. And to his boss in the Oval Office. Though why should a headstrong Saudi prince pay any attention to an American underling who has been repeatedly undermined by that same boss? With links - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/opinion/saudi-arabia-donald-trump.html
See also:
Jared Kushner 'tried and failed to get a $500m loan from Qatar before pushing Trump to take hard line against country'
.. the second one in post headed ..
Qatar, Kushner and Cohen: The Latest Scandal Rocking the Trump White House
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=140890368
conix, You could probably find some wealthy, and/or intelligence individual in Qatar who in some way aided the 9/11 hijackers.
Course, you as a Trump enabler are more interested in demonizing Iran than Saudi Arabia, or other ME countries. Why is that?
It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”
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