Sunday, August 31, 2003 9:03:51 PM
UnD -
you had a post a few months ago where you gave figures that, when plugged into the yield calculator, would have given Intel's yields, when interpreted according to accompanying statements you made. Was that a test to see whether we were paying attention? :)
That was an attempt to be helpful. I gave people here a tool to help them make informed predictions about yields. There is someone here who says that tool is not useful for complex devices but I strongly disagree. It does a very good job predicting yields on the most complex devices I've tracked and if you believe me that <.25/cm2 is the threshold for world class yields then you can do the math and see what a fab should be putting out if they're world class. Keep in mind that I've made no claims about Intel's yields and they may not be in this range. AMD on the other hand has made statements that they have the "best yields in the world" prior to moving to .13u SOI. If one ran the numbers at the time that claim was made then it would be very hard to explain the low fab output. I am surprised that there hasn't been another shareholders lawsuit over this, in addition to the pending ones, because it would be pretty easy to prove.
you had a post a few months ago where you gave figures that, when plugged into the yield calculator, would have given Intel's yields, when interpreted according to accompanying statements you made. Was that a test to see whether we were paying attention? :)
That was an attempt to be helpful. I gave people here a tool to help them make informed predictions about yields. There is someone here who says that tool is not useful for complex devices but I strongly disagree. It does a very good job predicting yields on the most complex devices I've tracked and if you believe me that <.25/cm2 is the threshold for world class yields then you can do the math and see what a fab should be putting out if they're world class. Keep in mind that I've made no claims about Intel's yields and they may not be in this range. AMD on the other hand has made statements that they have the "best yields in the world" prior to moving to .13u SOI. If one ran the numbers at the time that claim was made then it would be very hard to explain the low fab output. I am surprised that there hasn't been another shareholders lawsuit over this, in addition to the pending ones, because it would be pretty easy to prove.
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