Della, one of the easiest ways to find out is to phone Maddy Franco and ask her for Mr. Sheppard's corporate email address. Then you can email him yourself and ask him. Most people have found over the past couple of year, if they are polite, he will reply. The other way to find out is to be a member of the Platinum forum. If there is something to be known, we will DD it and get it posted. Good DD can be hard work but we are good at the DD. Oaks (aimho)