cj and hut, that study does establish that Bavi has anti-tumor activity, and does not make one turn away from the concepts being advanced here. Instead it would make me want to find a means of amplifying the effect. Looks as if Bavi and antiphospholipid therapy still has a foot in the door. Nice find. This was what a lot of folks have been waiting for. Haven't sold out yet, but it seems that i have far fewer shares than I once did! Good luck to you all. I'm still reading your messages! doc