Denny Just like all here I no idea of how they would calculate the pay out matrix, it would be almost any number they choose. I have suggested they could do the exact 180 degree opposite of what they did the last go around and they could do something different s well. But sorry I can't tell ya as I have no idea how it could all shake out in the end and like I said they could also do the exact same or opposite with the PREFFERDS or they could give prefferds commons , guess we wait and see