no, dated and some that reported dated such history
do have an agenda, others do not. it's nice to know history... as with ecsl i have lived it.... and understand it completely... as do other longs here,... that arrived even before i did. what you are digging up and that of other posters late to the party, has been exposed many years ago and is resolved....old hat. we are on the cusp of greatness...finally...with ecsl with many a false start behind us and even one ''run'' that was related to nothing and due to no one. now, dont assume anything.... and sit back and enjoy the rid.
life is way too important to take seriously