Yes, of course, you make good arguments. CONVINCING I'll repeat, . they created the so-called "subsidiary" to bury debt ( obviously ) but they conveyed ZERO ASSETS INTO THE SUBSIDIARY. NSAV HAS NO ASSETS , not lately. Creating a "subsidiary" to capture DEBT ONLY, but simultaneously conveying NO ASSETS into the subsidiary is prima facie fraudulent. Too easy, the jury will be out for about 3 minutes. Until2017