Not familiar with Epic. Remember they are talking about machine learning and autonomous surgery. That's a whole new level of medical device software. Titan needs a strategic partner and I'm not talking about longtai, market won't care about a distributor. Verb would be good..... Still can't find who bought those shares in the offering. Is there any other way a person or entity would be considered a company insider and not be reported to SEDI? Maybe Siebert, Nahon or SS?