What I think,and is just what I think, that if Titian does ever come out with something they will be inferior to what's out on the market or what is about to come out! That's probably why isrg is holding back coming out with new tech so they can take the wind out of Titians sails so to speak! I dont know how much most of you invested and I don't care but good luck to everyone I hope the best. I hope I'm wrong, not that it matters to me either way but I'm competitive and hate loosing