Friday, November 25, 2016 11:08:50 AM
There is a big difference between a person who "creates and alias" and pops up suddenly and one who has been on IHUB for 5 years or so and just posts sparingly (don't have time). I have been following this board (and posting) since APDN's penny stock days when they went from .07 to .30 (what first got them attention). Fair enough Spawballer
I LOVED (still do a bit) the IDEA of APDN. I have always thought to myself, "This is that one in a million penny stock company that could make it." I do too and I am more convinced than before...You know, you can call it hope against better judgement, but there are tons of indications this stock will burst when time is ripe...I have had several occasions of bumping in to adnas and the fact that there is so little substantial to be found can either be indicative of "company in distress" and "company knowing exactly what they are doing" both are equally plausible imho
My questions were straightforward. They were meant to give the APDN supporters on here a platform don´t we allready have this platform?to share good SOLID reasons why they would invest so much money in a struggling company. struggling is a presumption Spawballer, seemingly backed up by delayed revs and big deals...remember adnas only went to commercialisation last year, with cotton...different verticals are yet to commercialize at scale
Contrary to Rode's comment that Bears only post non-concrete details about APDN bears do post concrete details and they concern only the numbers we all know, it seems to me that the BEARS are the only one's posting anything of substance. arguing there because "of substance" for me is info on adnas otherwise hard to find or not available easily or quickly...whereas pps and revs and dilution concerns facts and numbers we ALL know allready. Furthermore I tend to believe that several ihubbers appreciate what I find, although not always substantial...as a matter of fact: they tell me All I see from the Bulls are hope posts about articles that have nothing to do with the bottom line.disagree once more because I am certain of this company and that beats "hope"...in my case I post partly on possible co-ops and partnerships based on found info and I post about possible applications and markets...connecting the dots here and there. What´s wrong with that? If bulls didn´t do that, the bears would have a carte blanche on bearish sentiment...to be complete: I do post about competitors...as a matter of fact: I contact them, I dig in...something I´ve seen NO bear do Mcsharkey is about the only one on here who confesses that he is grabbing at material that can keep bringing him hope amidst the multiple disappointments. I respect that.glad you respect McSharky...I do too...
So here are CONCRETE details about why bears have a rational basis to be suspicious:
1. APDN has never ONCE produced a profitable quarter. This upcoming quarter was supposed supposed by whom? to be the slam dunk...but it is HIGHLY unlikely it will be profitable. I am HAPPY to be wrong, because if it's profitable, the stock will jump and I can get out "can get out?" Thought you loved apdn still a bit and thought you made money already...are you saying you are glad to sell those 800 shares at >2.90 without loss now....? Seems to me that in the event apdn would jump most 5 year long adnasfollowers would take a leap and figure out if it is time finally... without a loss.
2. Solid revenue PR's have been conspicuously absent this year.fits my explanation of the why in that I was in APDN on hits metoeoric rise last year, and this year feels so different. We were expecting some great PR"s to come out around October, like that incredible one about 100 mil of cotton tagging last year. But where are they??? so 275% use of joyjuice compared with 2015, equalling dna for 150mln lbs is not such a PR?...it´s only disappointing in light of earlier expected use (1) of 100 mln lbs...and the unpleasant surprise of leftoverjuice...further we have a lot to discover as a consequence of Welspun drama... we have some other minor rev indicating PR´s but agree that they are not here yet
3. Each year the company continues to dilute. That inevitably hurts your value as a stock holder.can´t argue here They 've been doing this their entire existence. Remember, there used to be hudreds of millions of shares out there.
4. INVESTING in a company like this defies all the logic disagree if you take other stuff into account (no bear ever does) of common sense investing. It's not profitable, it burns cash at a high rate, it does not produce quarter on quarter increase of sales showing a consistency.
okay, some of that other stuff: How come VERY respectable and techleading companies go in bed with adnas when they all can see what bears see? Why big industrynames eagerly join adnas in spite of its "record"? Why government is backing adnas? Why USDA has a guy flew in to lead the Vandalia scaleup and afterwards again joins USDA? Why are we sponsoring summits together with parties that would absolutely not be wanting to be associated with adnas if adnas were this in distress company? There is a lot of other stuff too, but I am unwilling to share that because they concern personal encounters with adnasrelated people and companies
I would just like to see some honesty and transparency honest and transparent I am to the level I want to share what I know (and SOBRIETY) not a chance there Spawballer, but then you´d know if you were to join our swampcabbage Orangemen´s stuff parties with JD and Shark oncefrom the faithful on this board. I'm not goint to post incessantly like SOL thanks I appreciate that I'm here to have a rational and productive conversation. okay, fine but check upon some of what you stated, cos it seems not that honest and transparent to me in line with things you also state.
Looking forward to solid conversations, like we have now, with you Spaw.
I LOVED (still do a bit) the IDEA of APDN. I have always thought to myself, "This is that one in a million penny stock company that could make it." I do too and I am more convinced than before...You know, you can call it hope against better judgement, but there are tons of indications this stock will burst when time is ripe...I have had several occasions of bumping in to adnas and the fact that there is so little substantial to be found can either be indicative of "company in distress" and "company knowing exactly what they are doing" both are equally plausible imho
My questions were straightforward. They were meant to give the APDN supporters on here a platform don´t we allready have this platform?to share good SOLID reasons why they would invest so much money in a struggling company. struggling is a presumption Spawballer, seemingly backed up by delayed revs and big deals...remember adnas only went to commercialisation last year, with cotton...different verticals are yet to commercialize at scale
Contrary to Rode's comment that Bears only post non-concrete details about APDN bears do post concrete details and they concern only the numbers we all know, it seems to me that the BEARS are the only one's posting anything of substance. arguing there because "of substance" for me is info on adnas otherwise hard to find or not available easily or quickly...whereas pps and revs and dilution concerns facts and numbers we ALL know allready. Furthermore I tend to believe that several ihubbers appreciate what I find, although not always substantial...as a matter of fact: they tell me All I see from the Bulls are hope posts about articles that have nothing to do with the bottom line.disagree once more because I am certain of this company and that beats "hope"...in my case I post partly on possible co-ops and partnerships based on found info and I post about possible applications and markets...connecting the dots here and there. What´s wrong with that? If bulls didn´t do that, the bears would have a carte blanche on bearish sentiment...to be complete: I do post about competitors...as a matter of fact: I contact them, I dig in...something I´ve seen NO bear do Mcsharkey is about the only one on here who confesses that he is grabbing at material that can keep bringing him hope amidst the multiple disappointments. I respect that.glad you respect McSharky...I do too...
So here are CONCRETE details about why bears have a rational basis to be suspicious:
1. APDN has never ONCE produced a profitable quarter. This upcoming quarter was supposed supposed by whom? to be the slam dunk...but it is HIGHLY unlikely it will be profitable. I am HAPPY to be wrong, because if it's profitable, the stock will jump and I can get out "can get out?" Thought you loved apdn still a bit and thought you made money already...are you saying you are glad to sell those 800 shares at >2.90 without loss now....? Seems to me that in the event apdn would jump most 5 year long adnasfollowers would take a leap and figure out if it is time finally... without a loss.
2. Solid revenue PR's have been conspicuously absent this year.fits my explanation of the why in that I was in APDN on hits metoeoric rise last year, and this year feels so different. We were expecting some great PR"s to come out around October, like that incredible one about 100 mil of cotton tagging last year. But where are they??? so 275% use of joyjuice compared with 2015, equalling dna for 150mln lbs is not such a PR?...it´s only disappointing in light of earlier expected use (1) of 100 mln lbs...and the unpleasant surprise of leftoverjuice...further we have a lot to discover as a consequence of Welspun drama... we have some other minor rev indicating PR´s but agree that they are not here yet
3. Each year the company continues to dilute. That inevitably hurts your value as a stock holder.can´t argue here They 've been doing this their entire existence. Remember, there used to be hudreds of millions of shares out there.
4. INVESTING in a company like this defies all the logic disagree if you take other stuff into account (no bear ever does) of common sense investing. It's not profitable, it burns cash at a high rate, it does not produce quarter on quarter increase of sales showing a consistency.
okay, some of that other stuff: How come VERY respectable and techleading companies go in bed with adnas when they all can see what bears see? Why big industrynames eagerly join adnas in spite of its "record"? Why government is backing adnas? Why USDA has a guy flew in to lead the Vandalia scaleup and afterwards again joins USDA? Why are we sponsoring summits together with parties that would absolutely not be wanting to be associated with adnas if adnas were this in distress company? There is a lot of other stuff too, but I am unwilling to share that because they concern personal encounters with adnasrelated people and companies
I would just like to see some honesty and transparency honest and transparent I am to the level I want to share what I know (and SOBRIETY) not a chance there Spawballer, but then you´d know if you were to join our swampcabbage Orangemen´s stuff parties with JD and Shark oncefrom the faithful on this board. I'm not goint to post incessantly like SOL thanks I appreciate that I'm here to have a rational and productive conversation. okay, fine but check upon some of what you stated, cos it seems not that honest and transparent to me in line with things you also state.
Looking forward to solid conversations, like we have now, with you Spaw.
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