okay, sorry. I didn't mean it. It's hard to keep track of who is saying it first, I just see a lot of posts bashing, and nit-picking, so I wasn't focusing on you directly, just speaking in general. It's nothing personal.
Odysseus crossed the river of Styx. He asked Achilles if it was worth trading his life to have his 'name' live forever. Achilles replies: "I would rather be the slave of a slave on earth, then to live here in Hades..." --Homer's The Illiad