My point was more to do with how the poltician's constant LYING (or bully-bullshitting as it were) seems to have become commonplace unlike anything I've ever seen before? Just read the opposing opinions in those two threads? 'Trump's a LIAR, Hillary is cool' - 'Hillary's a LIAR, Trump is cool'?
And when LIES are accepted in so much mindless groupthink, the end result cannot be good?