nocona I have noticed the 30 min stochastics gives a good head up in a trend change before 11 - it showed the market was gonna go down. see post below <A HREF="http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12465807" target="_blank">http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=12465807</A>