ya your words pretty much put it into a bundle. there are companies that will use a shell to go public catching one of those that is not going to do a real nasty RS on you in order to uplist is like washing a shake, i think i agree with you. they take so much time and all you get is dashed against the rocks they put out skimpy PRs and you got flippers singing and dumping the only thing that helps make the trading junkys money is the bag holder longs. I invest and help the traders it's like feeding misqueetos. A little blood at a time Good hearing from you again.