Illegitimacy is still way too high, fuagf. And if you are suggesting that Obama is responsible for the decline in that--don't make me choke with laughter. But to follow your logic: "In the long term, violent crime in the United States has been in decline since colonial times." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States Crime rates today are about the same as in the 60's." Then one can conclude that despite our "gun culture", violent crimes are declining. Right?