I spoke to Greg D in another lengthy coversation again today. He persists that the livelyhood of all their executives is riding on this company, so much that the stock needs to go up. It felt like I was pushing the issue but as such a large shareholder, we need to know. Once again swears there's no dilution and I try to tell him some boards are starting to make some noise about the stock and there may be a lot of impatient shareholders. He's like "what boards". Its against their legalities to look at any such board