It seems to me that the original poster was referring to common shares, not preferred shares. I don't know of anyone trading in the preferreds. LOL haven't you read PAIM's own info sheets at Pink Sheets News Service? In their own words, outstanding preferreds 30,044,316,000,000 and 22,827,651,000,000 of those are in the public float. https://www.otcstockinfo.com/repository/651759/651759_FR24.pdf Those are TRILLIONS bubba. Know the meaning of "fully diluted"?