And like I said in a post yesterday. Now that he is working so closely on large revenue earning projects with both Marki and Rick (in fact in partnership), he will not being doing anything to jeopardize his relationship with either one by damaging their reputations in any way. IMO My opinion are that both of those relationships will be very long term. I would bet that there will be other ventures yet to come between Red Giant and GlowDot. If I'm not mistaken, there was even a hint of that a few weeks back and we already know about the 5 year deal signed with Marki recently. If Benny said, 10,000 subscriptions, then that's what I believe and take it at face value. IMO