Around 2B which is irrelevant. They havn't been updated since Aug of 2015. Not an issue looking at L2 which is a lot better looking than some stocks which are very much in the public eye because of pr's or promos. EVRM is under the radar there are no promo groups on it which get diluted shares for their services and dump them into the market to create awareness. Compared to most of the triple 0 junk out there L2 on EVRM looks very thin and reduces fairly easy with minimal volume. In the last YEAR the highest volume was 30M traded which brought EVRM to .0012. Apr. 23 2015 it was .0015 hasn't done a lot of volume since then. I don't care what the reputation of the ceo is at this point. There are wonderful ceo's out there who dilute their company shares to stay in business it's a common practice these days because they can't get legitimate financing so they go to toxic financiers and dump shares into the market. I can't say with certainty what would happen if we got 10-20M volume in EVRM but from looking at how L2 ask shrinks with any buys it appears that it wouldn't take much to move out of trips. Isn't that why we trade these? There are some you buy and hold and some you trade.