I will tell you regardless of how he raised the monies, Dean Bradley put it into a company to build his vision part of which was Mineseeker I will tell you Jeff Digenova gave and raised monies to invest in funding Mineseeker I will say and it is irrefutable that I put real money into companies Mike Kendrick doesn't have money, didn't have money and never risks his own money in any of his "schemes" which is the phrase he uses