This ESFS board has always been very open----open to discuss all positives as well as negatives.In the past,it has been fairly mature and constructive.As far as the recent silliness presented by one "critic"----I think I need to apologize for "prolonging" it.Several specific claims were made---I asked for validation---repeatedly.The only response given is silliness.This truly is a case where the 4 year old discovers the phrase "I know you are but what am I"----and THAT is the ONLY response you will get to ANYTHING.This "critic" has zero validation to any of their claims.Enough said.Much easier to focus on the great news that has been coming out from Eco Safe !!!!