Hey pennies...another idea is to simply take the template I described and add a smoothed HA to it...a long time back I ran a setup using reg HA and smoothed HA both and traded well with it but I think my lack of understanding of the smoothed version caused me to dump it...heres an M5 on E/U like I mentioned..this sucker looks good just like this.The smoothed HA shows trend all the way to exhaustion and you get HA's crossing each other.